Lets talk about capitalism

[Kim]

My perspective is that Capitalism is Evil and I would like it gone forever.

Also that hierarchies lead to exploitation and abuse, and capitalism is just the latest form of that. I think of capitalism in many ways as an attempt at a secular, merit-based hierarchy.

Thing is I don't know how to structure things in ways that won't inevitably form new hierarchies, and those hierarchies will always lead to abuse and exploitation.

Even if you get down to the family unit, families are hierarchical. Parents effectively own their children, and because we live in a patriarchy the father is at the top of the pyramid. I think this encourages abuse in many forms.

I don't like it, but I don't know how to fix it, and I've resigned myself to the fact that even if I get to live a long life we probably won't fix this problem in my lifetime.

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by Kim

Thing is I don't know how to structure things in ways that won't inevitably form new hierarchies, and those hierarchies will always lead to abuse and exploitation.

This is true, which is why we should focus on systems that mitigate abuse instead of people constantly trying to push idealized versions of their model.

You need to think of how your model can be broken and exploited, worst case scenario situation. Because eventually your system will be that. Right now our mixed economy is at its worst, but at its worst your average person still enjoys a standard of living thats better than the rest of the world.

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

This is true, which is why we should focus on systems that mitigate abuse instead of people constantly trying to push idealized versions of their model.

You need to think of how your model can be broken and exploited, worst case scenario situation. Because eventually your system will be that. Right now our mixed economy is at its worst, but at its worst your average person still enjoys a standard of living thats better than the rest of the world.

I disagree immensely with your last statement.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

Right now our mixed economy is at its worst, but at its worst your average person still enjoys a standard of living thats better than the rest of the world.

People in a Capitalist society might enjoy a standard of living that is a bit more than the people who live in the societies which said Capitalist society has plundered and looted and stomped all over in order to provide that standard.