The Very Big Final Fantasy XIII Thread

[Regulus Tera]

Originally Posted by Yumil

X2, Revenant Wings, and the Ff7 cocktease tech demo, I presume?

FFX-2: Crap
Revenant Wings: Crapper.
Blood of Bahamut: Hasn't come out here but from what I've heard ended up being shit!

And from what I've heard he was responsible for the laughing scene in FFX.

Originally Posted by EVILNess

In the US, Final Fantasy started the jRPG. Dragon Quest has always played such a sad and lonely second fiddle.

Ultima created JRPGs.

[Mirai Gen]

"We think many reviewers are looking at Final Fantasy XIII from a western point of view."

Reviewers are looking at Final Fantasy as a wRPG.

Final Fantasy.

The franchise that started jRPGs.

...Christ Toriyama. Clutch at less straws, why don't you.

[Regulus Tera]

Originally Posted by Mirai Gen

Reviewers are looking at Final Fantasy as a wRPG.

Final Fantasy.

The franchise that started jRPGs.

Dragon Quest is now Final Fantasy?

[Mirai Gen]

Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

Dragon Quest is now Final Fantasy?

Fair enough, but it's not exactly in question that Final Fantasy is absurdly popular and everyone knows exactly what it is. Blaming wRPGs for the disappointing reviews of Final Fantasy is like saying Halo 3: ODST is underperforming because of Saint's Row 2.

[EVILNess]

Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

Dragon Quest is now Final Fantasy?

In the US, Final Fantasy started the jRPG. Dragon Quest has always played such a sad and lonely second fiddle.

[Meister]

Threads merged. Again.

Originally Posted by Yumil

I hear FF13 doesn't even open up till Chapter 11, quite a ways in, In fact, I hear you can't even back track

Sounds like FFX, to be honest. Not entirely because you could backtrack in FFX but then again it was a bit of a pain to actually do it so to me it sounds close enough, at least.

I don't quite buy into this notion that linear games are per se worse than nonlinear ones. If a game is good and the story and gameplay hold my attention I don't particularly care if I can make a side trip to Bel'gov'ia' Desert to collect 700 cactus flowers for the shopkeeper anytime I want. Slagging a game that's designed to be linear for that very fact seems a bit like slagging Mega Man 9 for outdated graphics. (I'm aware Final Fantasy may be the wrong series for which to cite story quality as an element.)

... I did curse FFX many times for how much of a pain backtracking was though but then again the only reason I ever wanted to backtrack was to get video spheres or whatever before Dark Aeons showed up, so basically just video game collectable OCD.

Please also note that I haven't actually read very many FFXIII reviews or this thread so if at any point in my post you catch yourself thinking "but that's not what this is about at all" that's likely the reason.

[Melfice]

From what I've heard, 13 might just drag me back in.
I very much disliked 12, so perhaps the change of plans'll be what I need.

[Kim]

My problem with the linearity is that the game is a giant, straight line with almost zero deviation. Not even any towns because they're lazy bastards with fucked up priorities. I'm not asking for wRPG levels of freedom, but a little room for deviation would be nice. Also: Sidequests.

A lot of my problems with FFXIII is that they seem to have just completely gutted everything and replaced it all with *PRETTY*.

Now excuse me while I go play Persona 4 and wait two and a half hours before I get to make anything other than dialogue choices. [/hypocrisy]

[Meister]

Not enough menus to satisfy the target demographic otherwise.

[Ravashak]

Same company nowadays, don't mind the details or plotholes xP