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Old 03-21-2010, 01:21 PM   #1
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While you're at it, evolve some MEANS OF COMBAT.
Or.....we already secrete acid. That won't feel good for anything that tries to eat us.
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Old 03-21-2010, 01:38 PM   #2
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Or.....we already secrete acid. That won't feel good for anything that tries to eat us.
Cosmic horrors generally are not phased by acid.
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Old 03-21-2010, 01:46 PM   #3
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Either way, clearly we are not equipped to properly interact with our environment. Perhaps a re-evaluation of our self is in order.

Also, perhaps evolving things is not the proper solution to everything that we think we need or encounter. If anything we need to evolve better structures for exploration and then spend time actually exploring rather than sitting around and evolving things we don’t need. We need to find some food, mark out a LAIR of our own, and then figure out where we need to go from there.
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Old 03-21-2010, 07:29 PM   #4
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Also, perhaps evolving things is not the proper solution to everything that we think we need or encounter.
Agreed. Use tools at our disposal whenever possible. Only evolve new tools when absolutely necessary. New evolutions should also be useful for a variety of things, as opposed to being useful only for immediate concerns. Size is going to be just as helpful as new evolutions--if not more so. A larger version of what we are right now could, for instance, have wrapped about the pugilist robot, and secreted acid onto him until we digested him for mass. At our current level of mass, however, it doesn't matter if we piss death and shit destruction. We are an insect to be crushed.


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If anything we need to evolve better structures
Structures are weaknesses. Evolve TOOLS for exploration, like greater squishiness and stronger acids/plating for stretching through areas, climbing things, and melting through obstructions.

However, it is only through the mercy (or forgetfulness) of Lord Arhra, that we did not suffer from multiple spinal fractures/destroyed brain matter and the death that comes with the loss of one's primary nervous system when we were punched.

The brain is, honestly, useless unless we plan to begin 'inventing' instead of 'evolving'. The creature will always be driven by the mass bureaucracy of this thread, therefore a brain is useless for planning or outwitting enemies. Brain or no, the creature will act and react only as we will it to.

The spine, on the other hand, is nothing but a limiting factor and a liability. Again, we should have had it shattered and been crippled until we could cannibalize it (removing the evolution in its entirety) or have time to rebuild it. It further limits the shapes we can force our squishy body into, and thus the orifices through which we can squeeze.

Structures = bad. They should only be evolved when it becomes obvious that we NEED a structure for something. Better hands, for instance, if we get to a point when we NEED to lift something. A central nervous system when we reach a point where we NEED to CREATE something, instead of evolve it. Eyes when we NEED to see (which we did, and I agree with their structure being added).

A structureless, organless mass is, effectively, immune to all non-chemical or energy based forms of damage. You can't injure it with cuts or blunt force, as it will merely reform, or escape leaving some of its mass behind to rebuild later. A mass with organs and structures, however, becomes vulnerable.
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We need to find some food, mark out a LAIR of our own, and then figure out where we need to go from there.
Agreed, again.

Edit: That is if we're going to start developing an actual plan and not just shoot laser pointer eyes at formless horrors from the beyond.
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Old 03-21-2010, 07:37 PM   #5
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Edit: That is if we're going to start developing an actual plan and not just shoot laser pointer eyes at formless horrors from the beyond.
I would like to label the REASON center of the body the Tev-Krylo Node.

Anyway, I say RETREAT from the monstrous fangy death. Go back to the room we labeled as the MUSHROOM SHRINE and investigate where the yummy liquid leaking into it is coming from. This room may become our future LAIR if the source of the yummy liquid is renewable.
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Old 04-27-2010, 02:45 PM   #6
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Kinda annoyed that this got ignored.
I'm just not certain we can focus on that now.

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That sounds like waaaaaay to much using your thinking brain to work through our squishy, lazer-eyed problems. Imagine that we have the mental capacity of a cat. Enough autonomy to make humans think we are intelligent yet at the same time very instinct driven.
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The brain is, honestly, useless unless we plan to begin 'inventing' instead of 'evolving'. The creature will always be driven by the mass bureaucracy of this thread, therefore a brain is useless for planning or outwitting enemies. Brain or no, the creature will act and react only as we will it to.
See, that's the thing. I'm not getting our pink essence to try to think these things through, I'm asking us, the collective decision makers. We make the decisions, the brain just tries to work it out in a focused logical fashion. There was sentience and thought before we had a brain, however. Somehow information is stored in the protoplasmic semi-formless us as we are.

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-Fight or flee? The Dweller is not going to go away. We can either fight it now or spend our time running from it. We need to establish the food chain of this little hole and I want us to be on top.
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Is the dweller really a problem anymore? I mean it might simply have been boxed down into its own hole by the robot fist - I don't know, but that image makes it look really devastated.

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In our current situation what we are doing is failing at hunting. We have the most awesome ability to consciously acquire evolutionary adaptations at will. Our biggest hold-up is the conference in our mind that is interfering with our focus.

Decisions for the here and now are as follows:
-Herbivore, Carnivore, Omnivore, or at the very least, Predator or Prey? We need to pick one and stick with it. We need to settle on a frame of mind and work our evolutions to fit the mold.
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Omnivore, Predator, Flee Robot, Fight Dweller.

Also: Laser eyes.
I whole-heartedly agree with Omnivore, however I don't think we can fully decide predator or prey. Right now we're neither, and significantly more of a scavenger than anything else. I'd say rather we become hunter-gatherer and farmer - if we find future resources we need to conserve and promote them until we have enough to ensure we can evolve/grow enough to outpower our threats with enough mass and energy. Fleeing the robot is necessary, however. I do wonder if its possible to go faster than the robot can punch - slipping into the dweller's hole (avoiding getting trapped in our own), and killing it dead. If it is still alive, that's another reason not to devolve bioluminesence yet.

Nonetheless, if it gets us moving, I'll mostly back krylo's suggestions for now.
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Old 04-30-2010, 01:50 AM   #7
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I whole-heartedly agree with Omnivore, however I don't think we can fully decide predator or prey.
Well it was a decision on what we should evolve toward, not what we should be right now, and predator > prey. Obviously.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:13 AM   #8
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-Escape fanged death
-Go to mushroom shrine
-Devolve everything but ears, eyes, and whiskers.
-Evolve ability to not dilate sense time, leading to greater time skips between updates
-Start eating rock

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Old 03-21-2010, 08:38 PM   #9
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