Premmy's Big-Long Anti-Racism thread.

[Mirai Gen]

Originally Posted by Funka Genocide

Its their fault they have kids.

I...guess nobody is allowed to have kids ever?

[Funka Genocide]

Originally Posted by Mirai Gen

I...guess nobody is allowed to have kids ever?

This is America, churn out as many babies as you want, fuck you don't even have to raise them unless you're a woman! Have some fun!

Allowed? We don't dictate reproductive rights in America, so that's a silly statement.

Ever? Well, maybe all those horrible costs of living and raising your family wouldn't be so bad if you made more than 8 bucks an hour hmm?

I am not advocating government mandated reproductive law, I am advocating people pulling their heads out of their asses and their dicks out of vaginas long enough to build a stable lifestyle that can support the inclusion of children. You know, planning for a family instead of "oh fuck she's preggo."

I mean for fucks sake people, there is some obvious shit you can do to improve your lifestyle. Be frugal if you don't make a lot of money, invest in yourself (education) and don't incur unnecessary liabilities you can't afford (children).

If you make obvious, huge mistakes you are going to face huge consequences, what is so hard to understand about this? What do you guys propose the solution to poverty is then?

[Jagos]

Now take my friend. Both parents never finished high school. Their view of school is a negative one. This is not even an uncommon thing. Both US and Canadian education systems fail a lot of kids on a regular basis, and they're still doing it today. They don't know, understand, or live the benefits of that education. How can they pass that on, directly or indirectly, to their kids? They have two kids by the way. What do you think happened?

Something I thought I'd mention. Kids are usually smarter than their parents. It's basically to do with genes. Depending on their environment and how they talk to their offspring, a child is more likely to be more successful than their parents were at the same age.

there is some obvious shit you can do to improve your lifestyle. Be frugal if you don't make a lot of money, invest in yourself (education) and don't incur unnecessary liabilities you can't afford (children).

Our society et al is slow to change. There once was a time when having a big family was for the rich, who would have a farm and needed all of the cowhands. Nowadays, we have a lot of people who collect welfare for children rather than education. Interesting in the fact that there are very few women past the age of 25 that aren't pregnant and/or married and tied to the situation that they're in. Like I was talking about single mothers before, I don't see a lot of fathers stepping up to the plate.

That's just one of the problems.

Unfortunately, the war on poverty is over. It has been for a long time. You can't stop every last person from making irrational decisions. It's part of what makes us human. Government can reach out to give a few handouts, but one thing that is going to happen, the ones that want OUT of their situation will rise up. That special 20% of people, no matter the color of their skin, will get out of a bad situation. We can reduce poverty, we can do what we do best and educate ourselves to live better lives. But in the end, we have to acknowledge that what we want for ourselves won't work for everyone.

[Archbio]

As for low paying jobs being necessary for society to function, what exactly are you referencing?

Maybe I mispoke. Necessary for society to function as it does, rather.

They kind of all are. Now, you can go: well, some of those kind of jobs are relatively well paid, as are most of these, and now those jobs just don't plain count. Well, no, they all count, there's always a value provided. It's not because as little money as possible is going to be paid to the people to get that value that's it's not there.

The thing about a lot of shitty jobs being outsourced raises two questions: doesn't that just displace the question? I mean, these jobs must be done. It's like you're thinking that the plight of the oppressed wage slave populations of poorer countries is worthwhile because they're in this geographic compartment: a country where there's less upward mobility. So: it's not their fault.

It's a cop out. If they didn't do it, someone else would have to locally. Even if the entire population of the United States (for example) was composed of these wondrous, hard working subgeniuses, these new John Galt's (or you can just imagine a nation of yous)... someone would have to do every single job. And in these present systems some of them would get screwed pretty hard. Some of them would be unemployed. I remember all those times I've heard the USSR derided for pretending to 100% employement.

That's not to mention that these poorer countries pretty much all have some degree of upward social mobility. So the spngeous argument about whipping it and bootstraps and just working harder could still be adapted.

The second question this raises it: how in the blue blazes is this whole topic of discussing Funka not too goddamn off-topic? I really should stop feeding it.

[Funka Genocide]

Ok you win, I derailed this with my personal agenda and anger. My apologies.

I think I've said everything I've got to say on the topic about 5 times all ready anyways.

BOOTSTRAPS MOTHAFUCKAS! I'M OUT!