PhoenixFlame Presents: Eclipse Phase

[Overcast]

Oh yeah forgot to add in the edit to Daniel after the situations that were pointed out. Pulled a pair of specialties(Verbal Intimidation and Running) switched the +10 bonus to any skill for the Brinker from Intimidate to Kinetics, pulled 10 points(20 CP) from Kinetics, then reapplied to Freerun and Intimidate(for removing their specialties, poor fellows) and my Networking skills.

That should even out the thirty I needed. Got myself confused along with Krylo that I needed to spend 400 CP, but I needed 400 skill points.

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Geminex

"Lie on a hilltop, under a camo-cloak half a mile away and snipe the enemy's medics".

Someone didn't read the fluff section on habitats.

Edit: This is going to primarily be urban combat. There's not going to be any half-miles. It's going to be closed areas, for the most part. EVERYONE who plans on fighting should have decent armor and survivability. Hell, the first thing Lind is going to do when he gets conscripted by Nyx is try to get himself some decent armor, and I don't even plan on shooting at anyone/being shot at ever if I can help it.

None of us are safe from being shot at and it's completely silly/ridiculous to say that just because someone's a sniper or an infiltration person they shouldn't have decent armor. The armor incurs no penalties to sniping or sneaking, the only reason you wouldn't take said armor is because you can't afford it along with everything else you want with your character and are willing to take the risk until you can.|

Pro-Tip, read Lack. The story in the beginning. Note what happens to those characters that don't have armor. Even the ones that would normally not be in combat. Spoiler: Their heads get ripped off.

Edit 2: Well it won't be urban combat if we go to earth, but if we go to earth we're all dead anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

[Dracorion]

But armor will completely ruin Ellen's dress! That's... actually pretty much why she's not wearing any.

Maybe I'll get her an Invisibility Cloak or something.

[Geminex]

She's not much of a combat class, is she?. The entire Support/Assault scheme only works for combat classes. If she does have to enter combat, her primary goal should be to leave combat again, before she gets hurt. I'd classify her as support, if combat's inavoidable, since she could probably disrupt the enemy's command structure, using disguise and impersonate. But she's more of a utility class.

Yeah. I'd divide classes into Utility/Combat, and divide Combat into Assault/Support. Every character has a bit of both, utility and combat, though the weighting varies.

I intended for Spectre's focus to be primarily ,combat, though now I come to think of it, he's fairly utilitarian as well, since infiltration and demolitions have a lot of uses out-of combat as well.

Ellen? She's highly utilitarian. If we need a high-level personality to see things our way, she's the one who'll be responsible for persuading them.

OC? Very combat-heavy, in a support role, though I maintain that he isn't efficient in said role. Though his piloting skills might also be useful.

Oh, and I have a question regarding capsule ammo:
Its price is that of 1 dose of payload, plus trivial for the bullet. But does that give us 100 bullets' worth of ammo?
Because it seems strange that one dose, spread across 100 bullets, would still have the full effect. What's up with that?

[Dracorion]

Actually, Ellen doesn't use Disguise or Impersonate. Can you imagine why?

What if I give Ellen some proper armor and give that Chameleon Coating? Actually, nah.

[Geminex]

None of us are safe from being shot at and it's completely silly/ridiculous to say that just because someone's a sniper or an infiltration person they shouldn't have decent armor. The armor incurs no penalties to sniping or sneaking, the only reason you wouldn't take said armor is because you can't afford it along with everything else you want with your character and are willing to take the risk until you can.|

I'm not saying that he shouldn't have heavy armor. Like you said, there's almost no downsides to being well-armored. But there's a difference between being well-protected (as, for example, spectre is), and being heavily focused on surviving. And pretty much all the planetary settlements (which, I assume, we will be spending a significant amount of time on) are long-range habitats. I don't know what our missions will involve, I don't have much experience with the game. But I know that, at the very least, the ability to engage the enemy at long range, without getting engaged in return, will at the very least increase survivability.

As for Lack, that was actually the very first thing I read. But the fact that it seemed like something of a suicide mission didn't encourage me to use it as a template. One thing I noticed, though, was that every team member had an allocated role. Unlike our team, at the moment.

And wait, looking at my bio, could I use smart-skin as well as the armor I have right now?

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Geminex

As for Lack, that was actually the very first thing I read. But the fact that it seemed like something of a suicide mission didn't encourage me to use it as a template. One thing I noticed, though, was that every team member had an allocated role. Unlike our team, at the moment.

I looked at it as a "Well, they fucked up this mission. Why? For starters there hacker had no combat skills and no armor. Then instead of their two tankish characters going into cover last and providing distraction for the rest of the team, one charged in first where he couldn't actually help anyone, and the other failed to protect the hacker. They also failed to bring any thermobaric or plasmaburst weapons to deal with a nanoswarm, and, last, but not least, their secondary combat character (a synthmorph), failed to heed the warnings of their surviving techie."

It may or may not have been a suicide mission, but their team handled things poorly and it would totally be worth it to look at it and think of how things could have gone down differently had they handled things better. Looking at failed missions (even if the odds were shit in the first place) and figuring out why they failed is pretty standard spec. ops. training, really.

Also, it doesn't matter that OC's character is built to survive anything. You could be too. Without sacrificing much of anything from your infiltration abilities.

So could I with only minor sacrifices.

So could Ellen.

So could Rapter.

The only reason we aren't are in character issues. We aren't commandos, we don't attack secured facilities, and we aren't swordsmen. It wouldn't make sense for the hacker to have bothered getting a heavy bioweave implant, or the socialite to be rocking a full tactical combat helmet, and heavy body armor, it doesn't make sense for professor octopus to be trying to up his DUR as much as possible.

It totally does make sense for a commando to do all those things (well, maybe not the implants 'cause of the whole missing body thing, but still), regardless of whether they plan on getting shot at or not.

If you want to play your character a little closer to the edge, that's cool, but so long as Daniel is making a contribution to the team, there's really no reason for us to force him to change the role he's in.

Man, you are one of those WoW leaders who forces someone who doesn't even need whatever raid and hates healing to play it every night in a healer role just 'cause the other healer isn't quite as good, aren't you?

And wait, looking at my bio, could I use smart-skin as well as the armor I have right now?

Yeah, though come to think of it, I don't think smart clothing should stack with armor vest.

I think you've got a 'skin' layer (bioweaves, chameleon skin, etc.) a 'skin tight' layer (smart skin), and a 'clothing' layer (armor and clothes). I think that's what PF said.

[Arhra]

Yeah, a few more options with beam weapons would be pretty nice.

Originally Posted by Dracorion

Ellen now carries dual heavy rail pistols. Because your mother.

Just make sure the recoil won't tear her pretty little arm off.

Seriously, you don't screw with Sir Isaac Newton.

[Dracorion]

Since apparently we'll be in zero-G most of the time, she'll probably only be launched into the wall.

[krogothwolf]

Originally Posted by Dracorion

Since apparently we'll be in zero-G most of the time, she'll probably only be launched into the wall.

It'd be like having her own propulsion system!