Eclipse Phase: Frosted Glass Discussion

[Geminex]

Screw your digits. A giant crab isn't humorous, unless it doesn't have anything but huge claws to manipulate stuff with.

And I wasn't quite happy with that post either, but I'm getting there. I'm still too used to Impact, from Umbral.

[Geminex]

With my demo skill, can I create my own explosives design? Or only already-existing bombs? And I can create grenades as well, right? Seekers too?

[Dracorion]

Beats me. Even if you could, who the hell is going to use those seeker missiles and grenades?

More importantly, I don't think you even have the machine you need for that.

You know, technically Ellen arrived at the meeting at 8:01. Because Ellen is not late, everyone else is just early.

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by Geminex

With my demo skill, can I create my own explosives design? Or only already-existing bombs? And I can create grenades as well, right? Seekers too?

thats why I took chemistry, so I know what goes boom. That plus nanofabber equals theoretically limitless supply of explossives. I say theoretic because I still need compounds. Still simple ones aren't that hard to come across, nitrogen, potassium, sodium, ect are all found in organic matter. Sulfer and phosphoros will be abit harder but still not that rare. Heck find me some magnesium and I can even make flash gernades

[krogothwolf]

Ellen is such a bitch to poor little Butler haha.

Also Aero, you totally have to go "Crab People, Crab People" as you march around then we'd be set.

[Dracorion]

... I think I've just decided to make Butler into an evil AI trying to take over Ellen's body.

[Aerozord]

manipulate stuff? I'm a giant cyborg crab, using those, what do you call them, doors? Yea screw that, I go kool-aid man on that wall. Whose gonna stop me? I'M A GIANT CYBORG CRAB

[PhoenixFlame]

Originally Posted by Aerozord

manipulate stuff? I'm a giant cyborg crab, using those, what do you call them, doors? Yea screw that, I go kool-aid man on that wall. Whose gonna stop me? I'M A GIANT CYBORG CRAB

A bravery 10 rookie with a hand grenade. Probably on accident.

Sorry, I've spent the morning playing X-Com: Enemy Unknown to come up with some suitably thematic inspiration.

Demo skill covers the planting, maintenance, and use of explosive devices of all colors from grenades to shaped charges to thermite bombs to... But, as the game so handily points out in all the other weapons entries, you need seperate skills (most notably, hardware: explosives, or suitable field, academics: chemistry or suitable field, a nanofabricator and the programming skill, or a researched blueprint for that nanofabricator via the research skill.)

MOST nanofabricators are modified to not make military hardware, but a lot still can. As for equiptment, most of the bombs come with the equiptment to arm and use them.

Of course, it's still fairly trivial to make homeade bombs... I imagine thermobarics are particularly popular.

[Geminex]

you need seperate skills (most notably, hardware: explosives, or suitable field, academics: chemistry or suitable field, a nanofabricator and the programming skill, or a researched blueprint for that nanofabricator via the research skill.)

...
Qua?
Where does it say that in the manual? The section on making explosives just says:

A character trained in Demolitions can make explosives from raw materials. These materials can be gathered the traditional way or they can be manufactured using a nanofabricator. Even nanofabbers with restricted settings to prevent explosives creation can be used, as explosives can be constructed from all manner of mundane chemicals and materials. The timeframe for making explosives is 1 hour per 1d10 points of damage the explosive will inflict. If a critical failure is rolled, the demolitionist may accidentally blow himself up, or the charge may be extremely
weaker or more potent than expected (whichever is more likely to be disastrous).

No mention of needing a hardware skill, no mention of needing chemisty (though my muse has that), no mention of needing even a nanofabricator, except for ingredients. Hell, when you look at the entry on hardware, it doesn't even have "Explosives" as a sample field. One of the reasons I got explosives was that, as far as I could tell, it'd actually let me make the bombs, not just plant them. You say I can't, without spending another 90 skill points on assorted skills?

[Dracorion]

I'm worried I made just made a huge mistake having Ellen tell everyone she's an async, but if admitting that outright doesn't earn her some serious trust, nothing will.