Pokemon Umbral Discussion 25: Pokegeddon Returns

[Dracorion]

Altarisect's is probably something like sending a swarm of bugs to eat us up for like three turns.

[Menarker]

Firstly, AB said that Regina was packing Supreme Upgrades. We DO NOT want them getting something to the effect of Full Restore and 3 stage boosts to all stats.

Secondly, the fact that Regina has those items make me think that they were given to her by Burkmont's facilities (Major Grant works for him and probably gave them to the mercs he hired)... And somehow The Light and Dark, associated with Faynoc, had them too. I'd say chances are damn good that Burkmont are being suppliers to Faynoc.

Thirdly, your plan forgot that Mollesk has no choice but to target two foes with Rock Slide.

>> Fourthly, my post was just a placeholder in case AB went ahead or so. Didn't mean/want for Impact to start shooting and threatening Renny with bullet induced death. Was planning on editting after we decided on something. <<



As for the plan... trying to see if there is any way I can alter it so Renny can give the most out of his ability.

Renny: Use Serene blessing. Mollesk to use Rock Slide on Frossqueen and Artarisect, Swampert to wait to Mimic Stone Edge on Frossqueen. Mollesk and Swampert are protected.

Rachel: Leave combat to use two rage rockets on Impact. Leaves combat, so hopefully immune to damage. Pays 35 rage to protect Pierce's Tyranitar.

Impact: Dark ambition, leaving him with 0 Rage. Use second adrenaline boost. Attack Frossqueen with Flamethrower. STAB super-effective. Request Swarm Bow in exchange for Flamethrower. Gets Kurika to pay 35 rage to protect him

Charlotte: Spitz' Super Fang on Pegidash, Hammond to use Stone Edge on Pegidash. Gets her enforcer to pay 35 to protect Spitz while she pays 35 to protect Hammond

Pierce: Tyranitar with Stone Edge on Pegidash, Blaziken with Overheat on Frosqueen. Get his enforcer to pay to protect Blaziken. (Rachel is protecting Tyranitar)

Matt: Venomoth form, use sleep powder on Regina. Pays 35 rage for his protection.

Harliette: Mineral shot on Pegidash, Blissey's sing, also on Regina, deploy Illumise, Bug Buzz on Gardenoir. Pays for protection of both of Moon's pokemon.

Moon: Lanturn's Signal Beam at Gardenoir, Kingdra's Hydro Pump at Frossqueen.

Wilhelmina: Nether Shot on Frossqueen.

Trainer Attacks at Pegidash. If it's dead, target Frossqueen.


With this plan, nearly everyone is protected, attacks is not changed (except including second target of Rock Slide for Mollesk.

[Bard The 5th LW]

I'm OK with that plan, I'll change around my post for a moment.

E:Alright, editted Charlotte's post to apply. Although I can't really expend the rage points until Renny uses Serene Blessings, which I don't think he's done.

[Menarker]

Was going to see if Gem approve the latest revision (I doubt it would be an issue, but I don't want Impact to shoot Renny. ^^; )

Will make a post inputting Serene Blessing when I get the word.

[Dracorion]

First of all, AB's exact words were:

Medics have access to Rage Rockets and other items. They're just not able to pack shit like Supreme Restores 'n' the kinds of items Regina is about to use.

That doesn't mean Regina is carrying Supreme Restores. It means she's carrying a different kind of item that's probably comparable, but might be entirely different. So it could be anything, and if we're going to be ready for that crap, we need to know what the fuck it is. Or else we don't attack ever.

Doesn't really matter if Rock Slide hits two targets, Menarker.

Meh. I'd rather not spend too many RPs at once. We might want to use Harliette's Signature Technique, for example. It does non-elemental damage, sure, but it's sure to pack a punch nonetheless. And we might want to use our Enforcer's Signature Techniques, as well. Not to mention Charlotte's Co-Op and Matt's Synch Techs.

Moon doesn't really need protecting. I don't think Pokegeddon have anything that can do super-effective damage to his pokemon, and even if they did I doubt they'd target him specifically.

[Menarker]

Mind you, if they do heavy damage, our morale gauge might sink quite a bit. My technique, if used in high amount, also practically negates morale loss for a turn.

Plus, Harriette gains double rage. In addition to being a slayer, that is going to give her a lot back when she hits or get hit. And when someone gives her a rocket booster, she'll get 50 instead of 25.

[Dracorion]

Their morale will drop quicker if we do Signature Techniques after Signature Techniques after Signature Techniques. That means having RPs.

Normally, I'd argue that we shouldn't spend Harliette's RPs so that we can just have her use her Signature Technique every other turn. But she's bound to be a priority target anyway, so what the hell. Let's have 'er spend those RPs. Everyone else's RPs? Yeah, no. At least not Matthias' and Charlotte's.

[Menarker]

AB: If I wanted to have Renny take an item from a medic's infinite stash (for the purpose of his item technique), would that take an action of some sort?

Had the thought of Renny pumping almost the entire party with 25 rage this turn (instead of protect) this turn, giving some offensive power.
Rachel next turn double pumping Renny with rocket boosters (the way she is doing for Impact this turn), Renny use one of his pokemon's attack actions to take a booster from Rachel and giving everyone another 5-6 people 25 rage and repeat each turn. During turns when the party is really hurt, Renny does Full Restore instead of booster.


Thus a different plan would be

Renny: Mollesk to use Rock Slide on Frossqueen and Artarisect, Swampert to wait to Mimic Stone Edge on Frossqueen. Has 95 Rage. Use Prosperous Gifts with his Rocket Booster item. Give 25 rage to himself and 8 other people. (End rage is 30)

Rachel: Leave combat to use two rage rockets on Impact. Leaves combat, so hopefully immune to damage. (Gets 25 rage due to Renny. End up with 60 rage.)

Impact: Dark ambition, leaving him with 0 Rage. Use second adrenaline boost. Attack Frossqueen with Flamethrower. STAB super-effective. Request Swarm Bow in exchange for Flamethrower. (Get 25 Rage due to Renny. End Phase with 35 Rage.)

Charlotte: Spitz' Super Fang on Pegidash, Hammond to use Stone Edge on Pegidash. (End with 100 rage.)

Pierce: Get 25 Rage. Hit 100. Activate Co-Op Technique? (Can you use a Co-Op technique and still do your normal attacks?)
Otherwise stick with original plan, which is : Tyranitar with Stone Edge on Pegidash, Blaziken with Overheat on Frosqueen.

Matt: Venomoth form, use sleep powder on Regina. (Get 25 rage. End with 70 RP)

Harliette: Mineral shot on Pegidash, Blissey's sing, also on Regina, deploy Illumise, Bug Buzz on Gardenoir. (End with 95 rage.)

Moon: Lanturn's Signal Beam at Gardenoir, Kingdra's Hydro Pump at Frossqueen. (Get 25 rage. End with 50 rage.) Maybe get him to build a device or evolith?

Wilhelmina: Nether Shot on Frossqueen. (Get 25 rage. End phase with 95 Rage.)

Trainer Attacks at Pegidash. If it's dead, target Frossqueen.

I'm taking in account the altered Rage from Slayers getting double and what you guys would get from attacking.

[Dracorion]

I'm pretty sure we shouldn't be able to take tems from the Medic. But hey, ask away.

[Menarker]

Alternative plan for first turn. (Especially useful if AB say we can take an item from a medic at a cost of an action or so.) Only slightly different (Mainly allowing Pierce and Charlotte to do their signature techniques and Renny doing Propserous Gifts instead.)


Renny: Mollesk to use Rock Slide on Frossqueen and Artarisect, Swampert to wait to Mimic Stone Edge on Frossqueen. Has 95 Rage. Spends 80 rage to use Prosperous Gifts with his Rocket Booster item. Give 25 rage to himself and 7 other people. (End rage is 40)

Rachel: Leave combat to use two rage rockets on Impact. Leaves combat, so hopefully immune to damage. (Gets 25 rage due to Renny. End up with 60 rage.)

Impact: Dark ambition, leaving him with 0 Rage. Use second adrenaline boost. Attack Frossqueen with Flamethrower. STAB super-effective. Request Swarm Bow in exchange for Flamethrower. (Get 25 Rage due to Renny. End Phase with 35 Rage.)

Charlotte: Spitz' Super Fang on Pegidash, Hammond to use Stone Edge on Pegidash. (Renny gives her 25 rage. End with 100 rage.) Unless Charlotte wants to do her Relationship Technique? Or Co-Op technique if that's allowed with pokemon attacking on the same turn. (End with 0 rage)

Pierce: Get 25 Rage from Renny. Hit 100. Activate Co-Op Technique? (Can you use a Co-Op technique and still do your normal attacks?)
Otherwise stick with original plan, which is : Tyranitar with Stone Edge on Pegidash, Blaziken with Overheat on Frosqueen. (If you can attack after you do the Co-Op technique, you end with 10 rage. Otherwise, you end with 0)

Matt: Venomoth form, use sleep powder on Regina. (Get 25 rage from Renny. End with 70 RP)

Harliette: Mineral shot on Pegidash, Blissey's sing, also on Regina, deploy Illumise, Bug Buzz on Gardenoir. (End with 95 rage. Renny didn't give her rage.) She COULD do her signature technique, but that's questionable since her damage is random and we're probably relying on her to knock out Pegidash.

Moon: Lanturn's Signal Beam at Gardenoir, Kingdra's Hydro Pump at Frossqueen. (Get 25 rage from Renny. End with 50 rage.) Maybe get him to build a device or evolith?

Wilhelmina: Nether Shot on Frossqueen. (Get 25 rage from Renny. End phase with 95 Rage.)

Trainer Attacks at Pegidash. If it's dead, target Frossqueen.



I'm taking in account the altered Rage from Slayers getting double for this turn and what you guys would get from attacking with pokemons and all that.

Does Rachel have to pay 25 rage to use her second item? I didn't see any clarification. If she doesn't, she ends turn with 85 rage instead. Excuse me if I missed something.
Cause what I saw was

- The Medic has the ability to leave combat and use two items instead of taking an action and using only one item. The leader(s) can decide when the Medic actually uses these items, which is usually best after the leader sees what the enemy does. However, the leader must decide during the Ally Phase if the medic will leave combat to use two items. Medics can spend 25/100 Rage Points to use additional items.