Pokemon Umbral Discussion 25: Pokegeddon Returns - Page 8

Bard The 5th LW · 06-02-2010, 01:12 AM

Super-fang is probably the only way I've managed to use a Mightyena to good effect.

Thank god for the move tutor.

Menarker · 06-02-2010, 02:31 AM

Ah, it was 100 RP before the database got changed. Thanks for the clarification. Still, 3 turns of invincibility is not something to waste. ^^

AB might change how you gain rage perhaps, but I doubt he'd give all Slayers Double Rage, or he would have to give Harriette a new ability. (Although that might be easier to do in the long run perhaps.)

Anyhow, keep discussing on what you want me to do. Protect to as many active combatants as possible, or give 25 rage to as many people as possible for aggressive action!

AB said that Medics can use additional items per turn if they pay 25 rage. So yes, Rachel could do double boosters if she spent the rage on that second one.

If you could edit the details into your bio, that would be great, so we don't have to look for it. Especially if you could put it in your signature, but I have links to everyone's bio somewhat in my signature already.

Menarker · 06-02-2010, 03:15 AM

Rage system doesn't care who earns the rage the way AB put it. It's the number of hits recieved or dealt, not whom deal it. (Which means that it's double rage for Harriette regardless of whether it's her or her pokemon.) Although maybe that can be her ability, that the double rage applies to her pokemon too, while AB boosts the rage generation for all individual slayers themselves.

EDIT: NEW PLAN!

Current party set up? (Correct me if I'm wrong)

[Evolith/Device Space 1] [Matthias] [Charlotte Pokemon 1] [Charlotte Pokemon 2] [Rachel Pokemon 1] [Rachel] [Harliette Pokemon 1] [Harliette] [Harliette Pokemon 2] [Renny Pokemon 1] [Renny Pokemon 2] [Pierce Pokemon 1] [Pierce Pokemon 2] [Moon Pokemon 1] [Moon Pokemon 2] [Impact] [Evolith/Device Space 2]

Others involved. Wilhelmina, the 5 enforcers. (Dunno if Muon has rage to contribute. Doubt it.)

Required Data: List who would benefit from getting hit. Or who don't need Protect.
Current person who don't need protection and would even benefit from getting hit. (Harriette > Boost Renny's and her own rage generation when hit.)
Pay for 11 targets if at all possible. (Renny and his pokemons are automatically included in the original payment.)

Renny attacks with two pokemons (Air Slash and Mollesk's Rock Slide so he gains 15 rage.) Test Flinch theory, while trying to get Rage. Ends up with 95 rage so he can pay for 1 person's protect in addition to his pokemons and his own. *1*
Rachel pays for herself and rocket boosts Impact Twice. She has 60 rage. Enough to do that. *2*
Impact uses Kurika's Rage to protect himself? *3* Can still attack.
Harriette attack with 3 pokemons. Her rage pumps to 100! She pays for 2 others (Pierce's pokemon?), leaving herself open so she (and Renny beside her) get double rage when hit. Renny getting rage faster this way help pump his support skills faster! *5*
Matthias has his enforcer pay rage to protect himself (or he pays for himself?) *6* Get a bit of rage back when attacking.
Wilhelmina pay for someone else. *7* Get a bit of rage back when attacking.
Moon attacks with 2 pokemons, with two double hit moves, so he'll have enough to pay for 1 protect. *8*
Charlotte has enough rage to protect both her pokemons, or can draw upon her enforcer (11 if she draws from herself AND her enforcer). Can attack to get rage.

People Protected:
Renny and his two Pokemons (Automatically included)
Moon and his 2 pokemons (3)
Rachel and her 1 pokemon (5)
Pierce's Pokemon (7)
Charlotte's Pokemon (9)
Impact (10)
Matthias (11)

Not protected: Harriette and her pokemons.
If I made any mistakes, such as forgetting anyhow or something let me know.

The current Rage set up is here...

Pierce: 80
Impact: 35
Renny: 80
Charlotte: 70
Matthias: 55
Harriette: 70
Moon: 15
Rachel: 60
Wilhelmina: 60

Everyone else: 50

Astral Harmony · 06-02-2010, 04:03 AM

SignTechs/Seqs do now count as an action, except there's a special case in which the initiator of the SignSeq is the one who uses their action.

Medics have access to Rage Rockets and other items. They're just not able to pack shit like Supreme Restores 'n' the kinds of items Regina is about to use.

Fine, Gem. An upgrade is you. Slayers and Pokebrids generate twice as much Rage from hits dealt and received. Ya whiny fucker.

Harliette's double Rage ability applies only to her. After all, she's the Shock Trooper, not her Pokemon.

Now that all is said and done, prepare for an epic asswhuppin'.

Geminex · 06-02-2010, 04:14 AM

1: I really don't think that trainers should get rage for using trainer attacks. Not unless slayers start getting triple rage. Which I'd be fine with, actually.

2: My version of said plan:

Rachel: Leave combat to use two rage rockets on Impact. Leaves combat, so hopefully immune to damage.

Impact: Dark ambition, leaving him with 0 Rage. Use second adrenaline boost. Attack Altarisect with LH launcher. Request Swarm Bow in exchange for flamethrower.

Charlotte: Spitz to use super fang on Pegidash, Hammond to use Stone Edge on Pegidash.

Renny: Use Serene blessing (Two characters not sure who (suggestions welcome), spend 35 rage to extend protection to Matt and Impact). Mollesk to use Rock Slide on Pegidash, Swampert to use Ice beam on Altarisect. We can test flinching another time.

Pierce: Tyranitar with stone edge on Pegidash, Aria with ice beam on altarisect. Deploy Aria first, then Tyranitar. That way, sandstorm overrides drizzle. I hope.

Matt: Venomoth form, use sleep powder on Regina

Moon: Fathom and Shanelle with two ice beams, vs. Altarisect.

Harliette: Mineral shot on Pegidash, Blissey's sing, also on Regina, deploy nidoqueen, Ice Beam on Altarisect

Wilhelmina: Hit Altarisect

Suggestions? Improvements?

Edit:

Quote:

Fine, Gem. An upgrade is you. Slayers and Pokebrids generate twice as much Rage from hits dealt and received. Ya whiny fucker.

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SignTechs/Seqs do now count as an action, except there's a special case in which the initiator of the SignSeq is the one who uses their action.

Wait, what? Including Impacts?
...
Can I edit his technique so that doesn't apply? Or ignore that for this turn?

DanteFalcon · 06-02-2010, 04:19 AM

I exist still. Just...blech. Sickish. Should I not post, presume I'm doing what I'm being ordered to do.

Astral Harmony · 06-02-2010, 04:41 AM

Could you guys agree on a damn plan and post it in orange? Time's a-wastin' and I'm sure you want me to post tonight, eh?

I've done Charlotte, Pierce, and Renny's parts in the attack so far.

Geminex · 06-02-2010, 05:05 AM

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Yeah, you better do it...before I give leadership to Renny!

You wanna know where you can shove that suggestion?

Ok, I'm done. Sorry, but I keep wanting more info before I make these plans. I'll post it earlier next time.

Astral Harmony · 06-02-2010, 05:06 AM

Eh, I don't really mind. Occasionally gives me the night off.

Though this battle isn't nearly as huge as that battle orgy in Renny's sidequest. I learned my lesson there, for damn sure.

EDIT 1: Damn it, you just killed my post! I really don't have much time left. Tell you guys what: I'm sure you want to continue arguing amongst yourselves so please do so. I do want to do this other thing for the amount of time before I go to sleep. I dunno why, but I seem to be possessed by Arc the Lad IV.

Geminex · 06-02-2010, 04:50 AM

I'm making Impact's post at the moment. Sorry, sorry.

06-02-2010, 02:31 AM	#2
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Ah, it was 100 RP before the database got changed. Thanks for the clarification. Still, 3 turns of invincibility is not something to waste. ^^ AB might change how you gain rage perhaps, but I doubt he'd give all Slayers Double Rage, or he would have to give Harriette a new ability. (Although that might be easier to do in the long run perhaps.) Anyhow, keep discussing on what you want me to do. Protect to as many active combatants as possible, or give 25 rage to as many people as possible for aggressive action! AB said that Medics can use additional items per turn if they pay 25 rage. So yes, Rachel could do double boosters if she spent the rage on that second one. If you could edit the details into your bio, that would be great, so we don't have to look for it. Especially if you could put it in your signature, but I have links to everyone's bio somewhat in my signature already. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 06-02-2010 at 03:15 AM.

06-02-2010, 03:15 AM	#3
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Rage system doesn't care who earns the rage the way AB put it. It's the number of hits recieved or dealt, not whom deal it. (Which means that it's double rage for Harriette regardless of whether it's her or her pokemon.) Although maybe that can be her ability, that the double rage applies to her pokemon too, while AB boosts the rage generation for all individual slayers themselves. EDIT: NEW PLAN! Current party set up? (Correct me if I'm wrong) [Evolith/Device Space 1] [Matthias] [Charlotte Pokemon 1] [Charlotte Pokemon 2] [Rachel Pokemon 1] [Rachel] [Harliette Pokemon 1] [Harliette] [Harliette Pokemon 2] [Renny Pokemon 1] [Renny Pokemon 2] [Pierce Pokemon 1] [Pierce Pokemon 2] [Moon Pokemon 1] [Moon Pokemon 2] [Impact] [Evolith/Device Space 2] Others involved. Wilhelmina, the 5 enforcers. (Dunno if Muon has rage to contribute. Doubt it.) Required Data: List who would benefit from getting hit. Or who don't need Protect. Current person who don't need protection and would even benefit from getting hit. (Harriette > Boost Renny's and her own rage generation when hit.) Pay for 11 targets if at all possible. (Renny and his pokemons are automatically included in the original payment.) Renny attacks with two pokemons (Air Slash and Mollesk's Rock Slide so he gains 15 rage.) Test Flinch theory, while trying to get Rage. Ends up with 95 rage so he can pay for 1 person's protect in addition to his pokemons and his own. 1 Rachel pays for herself and rocket boosts Impact Twice. She has 60 rage. Enough to do that. 2 Impact uses Kurika's Rage to protect himself? 3 Can still attack. Harriette attack with 3 pokemons. Her rage pumps to 100! She pays for 2 others (Pierce's pokemon?), leaving herself open so she (and Renny beside her) get double rage when hit. Renny getting rage faster this way help pump his support skills faster! 5 Matthias has his enforcer pay rage to protect himself (or he pays for himself?) 6 Get a bit of rage back when attacking. Wilhelmina pay for someone else. 7 Get a bit of rage back when attacking. Moon attacks with 2 pokemons, with two double hit moves, so he'll have enough to pay for 1 protect. 8 Charlotte has enough rage to protect both her pokemons, or can draw upon her enforcer (11 if she draws from herself AND her enforcer). Can attack to get rage. People Protected: Renny and his two Pokemons (Automatically included) Moon and his 2 pokemons (3) Rachel and her 1 pokemon (5) Pierce's Pokemon (7) Charlotte's Pokemon (9) Impact (10) Matthias (11) Not protected: Harriette and her pokemons. If I made any mistakes, such as forgetting anyhow or something let me know. The current Rage set up is here... Pierce: 80 Impact: 35 Renny: 80 Charlotte: 70 Matthias: 55 Harriette: 70 Moon: 15 Rachel: 60 Wilhelmina: 60 Everyone else: 50 __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 06-02-2010 at 03:21 AM.

06-02-2010, 05:06 AM	#9
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Eh, I don't really mind. Occasionally gives me the night off. Though this battle isn't nearly as huge as that battle orgy in Renny's sidequest. I learned my lesson there, for damn sure. EDIT 1: Damn it, you just killed my post! I really don't have much time left. Tell you guys what: I'm sure you want to continue arguing amongst yourselves so please do so. I do want to do this other thing for the amount of time before I go to sleep. I dunno why, but I seem to be possessed by Arc the Lad IV. Last edited by Astral Harmony; 06-02-2010 at 05:14 AM.

06-02-2010, 01:12 AM	#1
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	Super-fang is probably the only way I've managed to use a Mightyena to good effect. Thank god for the move tutor.

06-02-2010, 04:03 AM	#4
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	SignTechs/Seqs do now count as an action, except there's a special case in which the initiator of the SignSeq is the one who uses their action. Medics have access to Rage Rockets and other items. They're just not able to pack shit like Supreme Restores 'n' the kinds of items Regina is about to use. Fine, Gem. An upgrade is you. Slayers and Pokebrids generate twice as much Rage from hits dealt and received. Ya whiny fucker. Harliette's double Rage ability applies only to her. After all, she's the Shock Trooper, not her Pokemon. Now that all is said and done, prepare for an epic asswhuppin'.

06-02-2010, 04:19 AM	#6
DanteFalcon Birdy Bard Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Japanland Posts: 501	I exist still. Just...blech. Sickish. Should I not post, presume I'm doing what I'm being ordered to do.

06-02-2010, 04:41 AM	#7
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Could you guys agree on a damn plan and post it in orange? Time's a-wastin' and I'm sure you want me to post tonight, eh? I've done Charlotte, Pierce, and Renny's parts in the attack so far.

06-02-2010, 04:50 AM	#10
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	I'm making Impact's post at the moment. Sorry, sorry.