Pokemon Umbral Discussion 25: Pokegeddon Returns - Page 9

Astral Harmony · 06-02-2010, 04:51 AM

Yeah, you better do it...before I give leadership to Renny!

Dunh dunh dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnh!

Don't forget to choose an attack for Matthias since he's sick. Must infected himself with his own spores.

Geminex · 06-02-2010, 05:11 AM

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Though this battle isn't nearly as huge as that battle orgy in Renny's sidequest. I learned my lesson there, for damn sure.

Strangely, I did better there. Certainly posted more frequently. I'll probably become more motivated as we progress in-battle.

Astral Harmony · 06-02-2010, 05:16 AM

When I do that post tomorrow afternoon after you guys are certain that you want to follow Geminex's orders (I have no problems, you can do what you want, you're the characters), I'll provide some motivation in the form of grievous insults.

Pokegeddon may look like joke characters, but they are in actuality lethal joke characters. They're like that one jester who looks ridiculous and really shouldn't be anywhere near combat, but piss him off and suddenly he's an Arch-Demon or some shit, flinging meteors and casting Level 5 Death.

Geminex · 06-02-2010, 05:21 AM

I think I am about to become extremely unpopular. It won't be logical, it'll be all your fault for not being on in the middle of the day/night and responding to my plan. But anyway, let me distract from my errors by making a HS reference:

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Pokegeddon may look like joke characters, but they are in actuality lethal joke characters. They're like that one jester who looks ridiculous and really shouldn't be anywhere near combat, but piss him off and suddenly he's an Arch-Demon or some shit, flinging meteors and casting Level 5 Death.

You mean like Jack Noir? Yeah... We're screwed.

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Oh, and you know what I just realized? Altarisect is bug/dragon. What is isn't is 4x vulnerable to ice. Did anyone else know this? Anyone? And if so, WHY DIDN'T YOU MENTION IT?

Dracorion · 06-02-2010, 06:21 AM

Two things: Aria's Drizzle and Tyranitar's Sandstorm would coexist. That only weather effect that clears out other weather effects is Sunny Day. And of course, all other weather effects clear out Sunny Day. But Rain Dance doesn't override Drizzle.

So Aria's ability would make it impossible for Wilhelmina to attack, since she doesn't get a nifty new item to make her ability harmless.

My suggestion? Forget Altarisect and throw some fire attacks at Frossqueen. Seriously, Overheat > Ice Beam.

Secondly, I made the same mistake you did. Thought Bug was weak to Ice, for some reason.

Also, stop making Impact into a jerk. That just makes it harder for anyone to pay attention to him.

Geminex · 06-02-2010, 06:24 AM

How's Impact a jerk? He's an officer, he has to be a dick sometimes. He'll make up for it by getting them out of there alive.

And ok. Modify my plan, propose whatever changes you'd make to it. I'll see...

Dracorion · 06-02-2010, 06:42 AM

I'm pretty sure the only person who sees Impact's promotion as actually meaning anything is... well... Impact.

Rachel: Leave combat to use two rage rockets on Impact. Leaves combat, so hopefully immune to damage.

Impact: Dark ambition, leaving him with 0 Rage. Use second adrenaline boost. Attack Frossqueen with Flamethrower. STAB super-effective. Request Swarm Bow in exchange for Flamethrower.

Charlotte: Sol-Leks to use Overheat on Frossqueen, Hammond to use Stone Edge on Pegidash.

Renny: Use Serene blessing (Charlotte's enforcer and Milsha to spend 35 rage to extend protection to Matt and Impact). Mollesk to use Rock Slide on Pegidash, Swampert to use Waterfall on Pegidash. We can test flinching another time.

Pierce: Tyranitar with Stone Edge on Pegidash, Blaziken with Overheat on Frosqueen.

Matt: Venomoth form, use sleep powder on Regina

Harliette: Mineral shot on Pegidash, Blissey's sing, also on Regina, deploy Illumise, Bug Buzz on Gardenoir.

Moon: Lanturn's Signal Beam at Gardenoir, Kingdra's Hydro Pump at Pegidash. If Pegidash is dead, redirect at Frossqueen.

Wilhelmina: Nether Shot on Frossqueen.

Trainer Attacks: Charlotte's at Pegidash and Pierce's at Frossqueen.

I didn't really want to remove Charlotte's Super Fang, but that plus everything else we're throwing at Pegidash would be unnecessary overkill, and that was the only attack we could spare.

Gardenoir would hopefully be damaged enough that Regina will use a healing item on it, and then we can see what they got.

Geminex · 06-02-2010, 06:56 AM

Ok... that's not bad, actually. But see, I picked Altarisect specifically because I knew we had a lot of ice moves at our disposal. Not so many fire.

Also, if we wait, we can just have Wilhelmina eliminate Frosqueen. Once she goes all maid-to-mistress, the gets two STAB-boosted ghost attacks with huge stats boosts. Murderous, that.

Also, see, we should keep super fang. Y'know why? We can see how well it works, so later it can be mimicked, potentially. (By the way, I'd have Swampert mimic either a bug move or stone edge, instead of waterfall). Also, even if it is overkill, we can just redirect all the rock attacks. Rock is super-effective against Ice or Bug, so even if Pegidash goes down quickly, the redirected attacks will do double damage against whomever they hit afterwards.

And Regina would hopefully be asleep, she couldn't use items.

Dracorion · 06-02-2010, 07:20 AM

If Regina's asleep then we got one weakened Gardenoir. And Wilhelima has a Flying-type attack, so we can use her to finish off Altarisect as well. Fair enough, new plan:

Rachel: Leave combat to use two rage rockets on Impact. Leaves combat, so hopefully immune to damage.

Impact: Dark ambition, leaving him with 0 Rage. Use second adrenaline boost. Attack Frossqueen with Flamethrower. STAB super-effective. Request Swarm Bow in exchange for Flamethrower.

Charlotte: Spitz' Super Fang on Pegidash, Hammond to use Stone Edge on Pegidash.

Renny: Use Serene blessing (Charlotte's enforcer and Milsha to spend 35 rage to extend protection to Matt and Impact). Mollesk to use Rock Slide on Frossqueen, Swampert to Mimic Stone Edge on Frossqueen. We can test flinching another time.

Pierce: Tyranitar with Stone Edge on Pegidash, Blaziken with Overheat on Frosqueen.

Matt: Venomoth form, use sleep powder on Regina

Harliette: Mineral shot on Pegidash, Blissey's sing, also on Regina, deploy Illumise, Bug Buzz on Gardenoir.

Moon: Lanturn's Signal Beam at Gardenoir, Kingdra's Hydro Pump at Frossqueen.

Wilhelmina: Nether Shot on Frossqueen.

Trainer Attacks at Pegidash. If it's dead, target Frossqueen.

Gardenoir: Two quad-effective attacks.
Regina: Sleep Powder and Sing.
Frossqueen: Five super-effective attacks. Moon's Kingdra's Hydro Pump for neutral damage.
Pegidash: Super Fang, three quad-effective attacks. Charlotte's and Pierce's Trainer Attacks.

Made some changes. Pegidash and Frossqueen should definitely die.

And hm, I see your point. Wilhelmina gets STAB with ghost, but not with Flying. So maybe we're better off using her super-boost on Frossqueen. My worry is that Pokegeddon will definitely be using Signature Techs this turn, and Frossqueen is likely to have one that screws us over.

Probably something with statuses or insta-kill or deathclock. Damage we can handle. Statuses suck.

Geminex · 06-02-2010, 08:25 AM

Eh...
I could live with that. I wouldn't like to, though. Lemme sleep on it, I'll get back to you tomorrow.

I don't think that Frosqueen's power would be so much more destructive than Altarisect's...

06-02-2010, 06:21 AM	#5
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Two things: Aria's Drizzle and Tyranitar's Sandstorm would coexist. That only weather effect that clears out other weather effects is Sunny Day. And of course, all other weather effects clear out Sunny Day. But Rain Dance doesn't override Drizzle. So Aria's ability would make it impossible for Wilhelmina to attack, since she doesn't get a nifty new item to make her ability harmless. My suggestion? Forget Altarisect and throw some fire attacks at Frossqueen. Seriously, Overheat > Ice Beam. Secondly, I made the same mistake you did. Thought Bug was weak to Ice, for some reason. Also, stop making Impact into a jerk. That just makes it harder for anyone to pay attention to him. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

06-02-2010, 06:42 AM	#7
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	I'm pretty sure the only person who sees Impact's promotion as actually meaning anything is... well... Impact. Rachel: Leave combat to use two rage rockets on Impact. Leaves combat, so hopefully immune to damage. Impact: Dark ambition, leaving him with 0 Rage. Use second adrenaline boost. Attack Frossqueen with Flamethrower. STAB super-effective. Request Swarm Bow in exchange for Flamethrower. Charlotte: Sol-Leks to use Overheat on Frossqueen, Hammond to use Stone Edge on Pegidash. Renny: Use Serene blessing (Charlotte's enforcer and Milsha to spend 35 rage to extend protection to Matt and Impact). Mollesk to use Rock Slide on Pegidash, Swampert to use Waterfall on Pegidash. We can test flinching another time. Pierce: Tyranitar with Stone Edge on Pegidash, Blaziken with Overheat on Frosqueen. Matt: Venomoth form, use sleep powder on Regina Harliette: Mineral shot on Pegidash, Blissey's sing, also on Regina, deploy Illumise, Bug Buzz on Gardenoir. Moon: Lanturn's Signal Beam at Gardenoir, Kingdra's Hydro Pump at Pegidash. If Pegidash is dead, redirect at Frossqueen. Wilhelmina: Nether Shot on Frossqueen. Trainer Attacks: Charlotte's at Pegidash and Pierce's at Frossqueen. I didn't really want to remove Charlotte's Super Fang, but that plus everything else we're throwing at Pegidash would be unnecessary overkill, and that was the only attack we could spare. Gardenoir would hopefully be damaged enough that Regina will use a healing item on it, and then we can see what they got. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

06-02-2010, 07:20 AM	#9
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	If Regina's asleep then we got one weakened Gardenoir. And Wilhelima has a Flying-type attack, so we can use her to finish off Altarisect as well. Fair enough, new plan: Rachel: Leave combat to use two rage rockets on Impact. Leaves combat, so hopefully immune to damage. Impact: Dark ambition, leaving him with 0 Rage. Use second adrenaline boost. Attack Frossqueen with Flamethrower. STAB super-effective. Request Swarm Bow in exchange for Flamethrower. Charlotte: Spitz' Super Fang on Pegidash, Hammond to use Stone Edge on Pegidash. Renny: Use Serene blessing (Charlotte's enforcer and Milsha to spend 35 rage to extend protection to Matt and Impact). Mollesk to use Rock Slide on Frossqueen, Swampert to Mimic Stone Edge on Frossqueen. We can test flinching another time. Pierce: Tyranitar with Stone Edge on Pegidash, Blaziken with Overheat on Frosqueen. Matt: Venomoth form, use sleep powder on Regina Harliette: Mineral shot on Pegidash, Blissey's sing, also on Regina, deploy Illumise, Bug Buzz on Gardenoir. Moon: Lanturn's Signal Beam at Gardenoir, Kingdra's Hydro Pump at Frossqueen. Wilhelmina: Nether Shot on Frossqueen. Trainer Attacks at Pegidash. If it's dead, target Frossqueen. Gardenoir: Two quad-effective attacks. Regina: Sleep Powder and Sing. Frossqueen: Five super-effective attacks. Moon's Kingdra's Hydro Pump for neutral damage. Pegidash: Super Fang, three quad-effective attacks. Charlotte's and Pierce's Trainer Attacks. Made some changes. Pegidash and Frossqueen should definitely die. And hm, I see your point. Wilhelmina gets STAB with ghost, but not with Flying. So maybe we're better off using her super-boost on Frossqueen. My worry is that Pokegeddon will definitely be using Signature Techs this turn, and Frossqueen is likely to have one that screws us over. Probably something with statuses or insta-kill or deathclock. Damage we can handle. Statuses suck. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away. Last edited by Dracorion; 06-02-2010 at 07:24 AM.

06-02-2010, 04:51 AM	#1
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Yeah, you better do it...before I give leadership to Renny! Dunh dunh dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnh! Don't forget to choose an attack for Matthias since he's sick. Must infected himself with his own spores.

06-02-2010, 05:16 AM	#3
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	When I do that post tomorrow afternoon after you guys are certain that you want to follow Geminex's orders (I have no problems, you can do what you want, you're the characters), I'll provide some motivation in the form of grievous insults. Pokegeddon may look like joke characters, but they are in actuality lethal joke characters. They're like that one jester who looks ridiculous and really shouldn't be anywhere near combat, but piss him off and suddenly he's an Arch-Demon or some shit, flinging meteors and casting Level 5 Death.

06-02-2010, 06:24 AM	#6
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	How's Impact a jerk? He's an officer, he has to be a dick sometimes. He'll make up for it by getting them out of there alive. And ok. Modify my plan, propose whatever changes you'd make to it. I'll see...

06-02-2010, 06:56 AM	#8
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Ok... that's not bad, actually. But see, I picked Altarisect specifically because I knew we had a lot of ice moves at our disposal. Not so many fire. Also, if we wait, we can just have Wilhelmina eliminate Frosqueen. Once she goes all maid-to-mistress, the gets two STAB-boosted ghost attacks with huge stats boosts. Murderous, that. Also, see, we should keep super fang. Y'know why? We can see how well it works, so later it can be mimicked, potentially. (By the way, I'd have Swampert mimic either a bug move or stone edge, instead of waterfall). Also, even if it is overkill, we can just redirect all the rock attacks. Rock is super-effective against Ice or Bug, so even if Pegidash goes down quickly, the redirected attacks will do double damage against whomever they hit afterwards. And Regina would hopefully be asleep, she couldn't use items.

06-02-2010, 08:25 AM	#10
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Eh... I could live with that. I wouldn't like to, though. Lemme sleep on it, I'll get back to you tomorrow. I don't think that Frosqueen's power would be so much more destructive than Altarisect's...