My Little Pony: Friendship is Mafia

[Nikose Tyris]

[Also forum is absolutely chugging today, and it seems to be only NPF for me. :/]

[Geminex]

My logic is that a GO would have modkilled people who have broken the rules, and it's entirely possible somebody from outside looked in and went "Oh hey guys you should be doing that here" as an afterthought. You posted a text log, which is easily alterable anyway.

Yeah, but the fact that we posted anything at all kinda implies that we weren't scum.

If we were scum, that conversation would be totally cool by Fen. We would know that fenris wouldn't kill us for talking. The only thing we'd have to fear would be someone noticing our conversation, and getting suspicious. But we were the ones who drew attention to it. And you can say that it'd look even more suspicious if we didn't draw attention to it and someone else noticed, but if we thought someone was gonna spot us, why would we have talked in the chat at all?

Your logic is just... weird. You already have a pretty good sign that I, at the very least, am a Townie because I posted the freaking conversation. Smarty barely participated. As for Sif? Maybe. But I doubt it.

Anyway, even if me or Sif DO turn out to be scum, that doesn't mean that the other two are. A scum might have forgotten the rules as much as a townie, and Fenris would still have showed them mercy because they hadn't done any harm and tried to keep it a secret.

What I'm saying is, it doesn't make any sense of all three of us to be scum, and while some of us might be scum, even if you discover this, you can't draw any conclusions about the other two.

[Geminex]

I'm picking you because your avatar creeps me out, which is pretty much the worst logic possible.

Actually, this is probably the most logical argument in your whole post.
>: ]

Edit:
Also, does mafia always go this way?

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I didn't talk about the game in chat, don't throw me in your boat mafiasuperscum.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

On the lynching of inactives, I don't actually think it does hurt us to lynch them at any point. Last time I checked (it was a while ago, so this count may be off now) there were 5 inactives. Assuming there are around 5 mafia, and the worst possible case is that none of them get lynched at all, then town can still lose a day before the mafia outnumbers them, because the last active townie will be killed off the previous night, after spending the whole day arguing with a room full of mafia.

At that point the game is over despite the fact that mafia hasn't technically won, because there's no one left to defend the town. So we may as well lynch the inactives, they're not actually doing anything to contribute to the safety of the town if all they're doing is sitting there taking up space so the mafia can target the active players and then just kill off the inactives for an easy victory. The more townies who're talking, the harder it is for the scum to decide who to kill off.

Of course that's the worst possible scenario and probably won't happen, but
lynching them early at least stops the scum from trying to hide in inactivity. The only downside I can really see is that some of them may be town power roles that are trying to get by unnoticed, but you can still get by unnoticed by posting something, as apposed to looking like you've just abandoned the game and forfeited your role completely. I mean if you're trying to look inactive to avoid a mafia kill because you have a town power, then you can at least make your presence in the game known by making at least 1 post so that we know who's playing.

Saying that though it might just also encourage any scum who're trying to hide in annonymity to start posting as well, which is of course, the point, because the more they post the more likely someone is to catch them in a lie.

[Nikose Tyris]

You're running around the point, Gem.

> You spoke about the game in public.
> You were not GM killed.

I'm ignoring Fenris' claim of "GM mercy" on the grounds that it might very well NOT be GM mercy, and simply him covering for your group getting caught publically discussing the game.

Everything beyond that is entirely circumstance. Nothing says you didn't edit the posts. Nothing says you weren't caught by someone not playing and called out on it. Nothing says you aren't trying to cover your ass right now- "Oh hey I posted the log I'm a townie lol" is a pretty weak cover.

GO kills people who talk out of game. People who don't get killed - scum. There's no getting around that, unless it's a terrible GM.

GM saying it's cool says that yes, it IS totally cool with the GM and he's just making a cover-your-ass post for exposing 2 (maybe 3) mafiates/scum in one day.

[rpgdemon]

Nik, a terrible GM actually enforces rules to the letter of the law with no leeway, to the detriment of the game.

A good GM will keep the game running well, even if the rules have to be bent.

[Sifright]

HOS: Nikose

Basically when you guys lynch Gem and he's townie lets turn around and lynch the hell out of nikose, basically you are blowing this out of proportion. The information was posted up by Gem there was no getting 'caught' as your trying to frame it. He intentionally posted the entire log chat to the thread. If anything killing me makes more sense because as i recall I said something about not posting on here. Basically you are grasping at straws.

Also you guys mis characterized my role. I'm not a one shot PO I have literally no active or passive powers I simply start out knowing one person who began play as a townie i've no idea what will happen to them later and no i'm not saying who it is for now.

To reiterate we were not caught discussing the game gem came forth and put the log down because he forgot about the rule at the time.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

The same thing happened in the homestuck mafia game, and nobody died that.

Out of curiosity, when this happened before, what did those players turn out to be in the end?

Also, GAH! The forums are being a nuisance today. I had a sizable response I wanted to make to Nikose but the post got eaten. Basically I don't agree with his logic on the chatlog posting. I think it was a genuine mistake of gems to mention it and he was trying to be fair by posting it so we could all see. The times on each line work out perfectly and match the time it was posted on the forum, so if he was trying to cover things up he either did a really good job very quickly, or he just isn't trying to cover up anything.

Further if he was scum he wouldn't have posted it at all, unless there happened to be a townie in the room, but we've heard nobody complain about the conversation being edited, which is what you would expect if you were town and happened to overhear the scum talking. If somebody who witnessed this supposed, un-edited version of the chat turned up with the unedited version then I'd be more inclined to believe that something odd was going on. It would have been just as easy for somebody else to post this un-edited version, but there isn't anything.

So yeah, I don't buy niks logic there.

[Nikose Tyris]

And nothing you or RPG are saying is changing my opinion whatsoever. I'm not changing my vote. Each person who comes in to support your side of the arguement, if/when you turn up scum, will then also be highly suspicious.