My Little Pony: Friendship is Mafia - Page 88

IHateMakingNames · 10-05-2011, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

That is seriously the worst argument I've heard this thread.

"You need to shut up, stop questioning us, and WE'RE TOTALLY TOWN. If you don't trust us, YOU ALL DIE. No, we still haven't made any proof for this claim, but TRUST US OR DIE."

Unvote: Ryanderman
Vote: rpgdemon

HoS: Ryanderman
HoS: Nikose
HoS: gregness

Gregness · 10-05-2011, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHateMakingNames

*snip*

Unvote: Ryanderman
Vote: rpgdemon

HoS: Ryanderman
HoS: Nikose
HoS: gregness

I know this might be tough given your... restrictions, but that's the second time you've sent a HoS my way and I'm curious why.

One of the chief arguments people have used to convince themselves that IHMN is town is something along the lines of "no one would put themselves through all that on purpose." Think about it though, doesn't that make it the perfect facade? Even if IHMN is telling the truth about derpy, she doesn't have to be town aligned. Derpy seems like a decent enough candidate to be the SK.

Now, the problem with that lies in the flavor text of the night kills. How much can we rely on it for information? This is my first Mafia game, so I don't know how much stock we can usually put in it. Could it be that even IF the flavor text IS technically accurate in that it's a cockatrice making the kills, could the cockatrice be somepony's pet?

I haven't convinced myself of this yet, but I think we should consider these sorts of things so that we can avoid any more screwups like we've had the first two days. Basically, I want to make sure we cover our bases.

HoS: IHMN
HoS: Nikose

HoS on Nikose because he's thrown out half a dozen more flippant contradictions than I'm comfortable with.

Sifright · 10-05-2011, 08:01 PM

40% of the remaining players are scum (that includes SK).
We will lose 4 players including today and tonight (game day and night) unless the sk and the mafia kill the same person this night. That makes mafia population 45% of the vote. and the Townies 45% of the vote with the SK controling the final 10%

Sifright · 10-05-2011, 08:08 PM

I'd say lets just all vote for who ever aldurin votes for because at least we know he won't intentionally vote for townies, but does any one trust him to make the correct decision?

Bard The 5th LW · 10-05-2011, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sifright

I'd say lets just all vote for who ever aldurin votes for because at least we know he won't intentionally vote for townies, but does any one trust him to make the correct decision?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubePTrs2VJc

rpgdemon · 10-05-2011, 08:22 PM

I am curious where you're getting your numbers though. There are 15 players left. If we lose four in this cycle, there's still 11 left.

That means that if the SK is 10% of the population, he's 1.1 people.

And if the town has 45% of the people, they have 4.95 people, and the scum also have 4.95 people? I'm asking not because I think your math is wrong (I'm just pedantic. I can get that you meant 5 mafia, 5 town, 1 SK), but because we were never told how many scum there were.

Last game, someone called me out on knowing a number that I wasn't supposed to, and was a townie, so I'm not saying that you guessing at the number of scum makes you scum. The thing is though, I got that number from someone else, and assumed that it was a standard in Mafia games. (It was that there were 4 scum). As it turns out, it wasn't? The reason I ask is because the person who dropped the, "There are probably four scum" was scum themselves, if I remember correctly.

I'm just wondering where you got your numbers from. Is it just a guess, a general standard somewhere, or something more nebulous and dastardly?

Aldurin · 10-05-2011, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sifright

I'd say lets just all vote for who ever aldurin votes for because at least we know he won't intentionally vote for townies, but does any one trust him to make the correct decision?

Designating me the leader of the lynch mob is a stupid idea, and we're all dumber for reading that. My decisions are based on other people's decisions, so you can't just designate me the main force in whatever direction I take.

Sifright · 10-05-2011, 08:09 PM

Seriously though it beggars belief that you are doing to me exactly the same shit nikose did to snake.

Edit: Also whilst arguments to emotion are some what foolish in that they don't bring anything to the table every one needs to be aware of the urgency and the importance of this game day. It's seriously a big deal if we as town fuck up today the game is unwinnable.

rpgdemon · 10-05-2011, 08:15 PM

Not intentionally, at least. I am quoting you wherever possible, and only paraphrasing when I'm frustrated and don't feel like going back and reading through for quotes of things I've already pretty much quoted.

In complete and honest truth, whenever I paraphrase anything that anyone said, it's what I took your statements to mean. If it's not what you meant, then please correct it with quotes, or by saying, "Look, I've made no posts saying what you said here, here's the post I made at the last paraphrase you said I made, here's the next paraphrase you said I made, and there's nothing between them resembling what you think I said."

It's possible that I may be attributing some things that you didn't say to you, that someone else said! My memory isn't perfect, and I'll admit that I may have bias attributing something that someone else said to you, since it makes my logic sound. If I'm doing that, it's not that I'm accusing you, then making things up to back it up, it's that I have an unsound memory of who said what, and am using that to make an accusation.

Sifright · 10-05-2011, 08:20 PM

Haha When I first read Earls post, this is immediately what went to mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MLry6Cn_D4

More seriously though rpgdemon, I don't trust you now because of those mistakes it's made you hugely suspicious to me, I don't exactly write very coherent posts i'll be the first to admit but you need to make damn sure of what your saying because with out proof to the contrary I'm almost certain you and nikose are mafia. At this point mafia can afford to stick together to try and force things through because well hey GUESS WHAT They have pretty large cohesive group that can work together.

10-05-2011, 08:22 PM	#6
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	I am curious where you're getting your numbers though. There are 15 players left. If we lose four in this cycle, there's still 11 left. That means that if the SK is 10% of the population, he's 1.1 people. And if the town has 45% of the people, they have 4.95 people, and the scum also have 4.95 people? I'm asking not because I think your math is wrong (I'm just pedantic. I can get that you meant 5 mafia, 5 town, 1 SK), but because we were never told how many scum there were. Last game, someone called me out on knowing a number that I wasn't supposed to, and was a townie, so I'm not saying that you guessing at the number of scum makes you scum. The thing is though, I got that number from someone else, and assumed that it was a standard in Mafia games. (It was that there were 4 scum). As it turns out, it wasn't? The reason I ask is because the person who dropped the, "There are probably four scum" was scum themselves, if I remember correctly. I'm just wondering where you got your numbers from. Is it just a guess, a general standard somewhere, or something more nebulous and dastardly? __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

10-05-2011, 08:15 PM	#9
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	Not intentionally, at least. I am quoting you wherever possible, and only paraphrasing when I'm frustrated and don't feel like going back and reading through for quotes of things I've already pretty much quoted. In complete and honest truth, whenever I paraphrase anything that anyone said, it's what I took your statements to mean. If it's not what you meant, then please correct it with quotes, or by saying, "Look, I've made no posts saying what you said here, here's the post I made at the last paraphrase you said I made, here's the next paraphrase you said I made, and there's nothing between them resembling what you think I said." It's possible that I may be attributing some things that you didn't say to you, that someone else said! My memory isn't perfect, and I'll admit that I may have bias attributing something that someone else said to you, since it makes my logic sound. If I'm doing that, it's not that I'm accusing you, then making things up to back it up, it's that I have an unsound memory of who said what, and am using that to make an accusation. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

10-05-2011, 08:01 PM	#3
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	40% of the remaining players are scum (that includes SK). We will lose 4 players including today and tonight (game day and night) unless the sk and the mafia kill the same person this night. That makes mafia population 45% of the vote. and the Townies 45% of the vote with the SK controling the final 10%

10-05-2011, 08:08 PM	#4
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	I'd say lets just all vote for who ever aldurin votes for because at least we know he won't intentionally vote for townies, but does any one trust him to make the correct decision?

10-05-2011, 08:09 PM	#8
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	Seriously though it beggars belief that you are doing to me exactly the same shit nikose did to snake. Edit: Also whilst arguments to emotion are some what foolish in that they don't bring anything to the table every one needs to be aware of the urgency and the importance of this game day. It's seriously a big deal if we as town fuck up today the game is unwinnable.

10-05-2011, 08:20 PM	#10
Sifright Fact sphere is the most handsome Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,108	Haha When I first read Earls post, this is immediately what went to mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MLry6Cn_D4 More seriously though rpgdemon, I don't trust you now because of those mistakes it's made you hugely suspicious to me, I don't exactly write very coherent posts i'll be the first to admit but you need to make damn sure of what your saying because with out proof to the contrary I'm almost certain you and nikose are mafia. At this point mafia can afford to stick together to try and force things through because well hey GUESS WHAT They have pretty large cohesive group that can work together.