The Very Big Final Fantasy XIII Thread

[Regulus Tera]

Chapter 5 End Spoilers:

Hope: " Operation Nora. Stage One complete."

I wanna rip my ears out and shove them down my throat.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

Chapter 5 End Spoilers:

Hope: " Operation Nora. Stage One complete."

I wanna rip my ears out and shove them down my throat.

You'll feel better by the end of chapter 6. Trust me.

We're currently on 7, but Phantom is sleeping before work and I'm not going to hear the end of it if I play ahead without him. HE can play ahead, but his offer was that I could start a new game. :shifty:

[Regulus Tera]

Chapter 6 is cute even if it makes me believe that Sazh is the most incompetent father ever. Then I get to chapter 7 and Hope starts his "pets" rant and all the goodwill I had in me vanishes.

I know Final Fantasy has never been known for its subtlety, but there's "being straight-forward" and then there's "getting hit with melodrama the size of an anvil".

[Kerensky287]

Even with Hope and Vanille around, I still find the cast of FF13 to be surprisingly believable. Take Lightning for example. Yes, she was a TOTAL bitch at the start of the game, but she seems to have softened a bit by now. I mean, it's quite striking when it goes for a flashback and Lightning pulls some shit like "This is the worst birthday ever" . Then she comes back to the present, Hope goes on some stupid tangent like "I HAVE TO GET STRONGER SO I CAN AVENGE MY MOTHER, THIS PLAN IS CALLED OPERATION NORA. MY MOMS NAME WAS NORA BTW." And Lightning just doesn't comment.

Vanille would be believable if she would tone down the ditzyness. I'm half expecting it all to turn out to be an act later on - like, she pretended to be shallow so no one would get to know her or something - because at this point she's just ARGH.

Sazh is great, Lightning is good if familiar, Snow is great when he's not obsessing over Sarah, and Fang is good from what I've seen of her (which admittedly isn't much).

Regarding weapon levels - does anyone else find it to be almost inhibiting? I keep finding weapons for my characters, but I've spend so much on the weapons they're already holding that there's no reason to switch.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Kerensky287

Even with Hope and Vanille around, I still find the cast of FF13 to be surprisingly believable. Take Lightning for example. Yes, she was a TOTAL bitch at the start of the game, but she seems to have softened a bit by now. I mean, it's quite striking when it goes for a flashback and Lightning pulls some shit like "This is the worst birthday ever" . Then she comes back to the present, Hope goes on some stupid tangent like "I HAVE TO GET STRONGER SO I CAN AVENGE MY MOTHER, THIS PLAN IS CALLED OPERATION NORA. MY MOMS NAME WAS NORA BTW." And Lightning just doesn't comment.

Vanille would be believable if she would tone down the ditzyness. I'm half expecting it all to turn out to be an act later on - like, she pretended to be shallow so no one would get to know her or something - because at this point she's just ARGH.

Sazh is great, Lightning is good if familiar, Snow is great when he's not obsessing over Sarah, and Fang is good from what I've seen of her (which admittedly isn't much).

Regarding weapon levels - does anyone else find it to be almost inhibiting? I keep finding weapons for my characters, but I've spend so much on the weapons they're already holding that there's no reason to switch.

On weaponry, it's much better to only upgrade what you're actually going to use. Resources are scarce in this game, both components and Gil. Weaponry seems to fall into four categories:
- high ATK, low MAG
- balanced ATK and MAG
- low ATK, high MAG
- low ATK, low MAG, special effect

Depending on your needs and each character, some just make more sense than others, especially at first. Don't waste your components upgrading every weapon. You will quickly run out. Also, be as thorough as possible in searching for stuff, because they were REALLY tricky with the AI and party banter. Your NPC allies will rush off on the straight path through, ignoring all the hidden areas, dead ends, and alternate paths that hold chests, and let me tell you, having to buy a weapon after missing it is a good way to wipe out every last Gil you own. Just one can break your bank. Also, don't get dissuaded when your party members say something like, "What, we're going back?" when you try to backtrack. In some cases, there IS no going back and there's an item there, so yeah, the devs made sure to fuck with you.


On Vanille, I will only say she is not what she seems and you'll get to see that later.

[Ape Boy]

I'm into chapter 5 now. I like how every character seems to be working on their designed personality flaws.

Lightning was a bitch, shows a maternal side, start to like her more. Sazh seemed incompetent and aloof, learn he's got some depth beyond the quips, start to like him more. That sort of thing.

Still don't like Hope at all. I roll my eyes everytime Vanille talks, but I still don't hate her yet.

In related news:

How do you tell an entire group to "douche-chill" at once?

Like Square-Enix has never developed for other platforms before or owe their company to Sony. Fuck that noise.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Ape Boy

I'm into chapter 5 now. I like how every character seems to be working on their designed personality flaws.

Lightning was a bitch, shows a maternal side, start to like her more. Sazh seemed incompetent and aloof, learn he's got some depth beyond the quips, start to like him more. That sort of thing.

Still don't like Hope at all. I roll my eyes everytime Vanille talks, but I still don't hate her yet.

In related news:

How do you tell an entire group to "douche-chill" at once?

Like Square-Enix has never developed for other platforms before or owe their company to Sony. Fuck that noise.

It's Europe. Their first FF release ever was FF7 on the PS1. So, yeah, they DO think it's a betrayal. They've never had the series on anything else.


That said, yay, fanboys? I mean, you have all the Wii fanboys ragging on the Move for being *gasp* a handheld motion controller and therefore an exact rip on the Wii, and Reggie sure as hell isn't helping by spouting broad accusations that Sony and Microsoft are ripping off motion controls and should be ashamed and how Nintendo is really going to blow the market out of the water with their next console they're not even planning yet and generally being a smarmy dick and giving millions of sensible people the urge to punch him in the face. Then I'm sure there are Microsoft fans who are spouting the superiority of Natal, confirmed people generally ignoring that Sony had the EyeToy YEARS ago (and often confusing it with the PS3 Eye), and basically everyone sniping at the other sides because they think their console choice is the best.


Edit: Considering starting that new file, just to play. If I didn't have to have an English assignment in by Monday, I totally would right now. Phantom hasn't played any further since last night before work and I needs mah fix. :p

[Ape Boy]

Originally Posted by bluestarultor

It's Europe. Their first FF release ever was FF7 on the PS1. So, yeah, they DO think it's a betrayal. They've never had the series on anything else.

No excuse for being douches. Not like Europe doesn't have the intrawebs to spend twelve seconds on to find out it existed elsewhere.

You'd think if they like the series so much, they'd want the franchise/company to be successful as possible. With as bad as the economy is in most places, everyone needs to get what they can however they can get it, including consumer businesses. Shit, you'd think that crowd would just be happy enough to get a free game console and awesome game.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Ape Boy

No excuse for being douches. Not like Europe doesn't have the intrawebs to spend twelve seconds on to find out it existed elsewhere.

You'd think if they like the series so much, they'd want the franchise/company to be successful as possible. With as bad as the economy is in most places, everyone needs to get what they can however they can get it, including consumer businesses. Shit, you'd think that crowd would just be happy enough to get a free game console and awesome game.

You're assuming humans are rational creatures. And I thought I was innocent. :p

I'm joking, but really, fanboys and fangirls transcend all logic and sensibility in their rabid devotion to a single object. Console fanatics will bitch about any console that's not their favorite, game fanatics will rabidly maul anyone who tries to point out a flaw, etc. These are people who have delved into full-on obsession and don't listen to reason anymore.

[Bells]

It seems the REAL beef was that the game was advertised on the US with just the 360 Logo and not the PS3 logo. And also the whole "360 owners get free avatar items", but that was before the whole "PS3 owners get FF14 free item when they register their FF13"