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Unread 11-25-2011, 07:24 PM   #101
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Unread 11-25-2011, 07:38 PM   #102
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Vote: Kerensky.

Yeah, all the talk he's done really hasn't warmed me up to him. When he was listing all the possibilities, I noticed he failed to list the ones where he wasn't the jester and was still lying.

If he's scum, I don't think he's trying to convince us one way or another. I think he just wants us to tie ourselves up in knots and do nothing.

So, I choose to lynch the guy who claims to be both a turncoat and an honest guy.
For the record, I never claimed to be a turncoat. Nikose did, in his PM to me. I like to think of myself as more of a TF2-style spy. I think sapped enough sentries to alleviate the pain of getting critted by the enemy Engie's wrench.

Anyway, more possibilities, as requested:

1) I'm a mafiate, so is Moogle (don or otherwise). Not possible, because I'd have been GMkilled.

2) I'm a mafiate, Moogle isn't. He's just a random guy I picked from the list. This would be a bad idea on my part. Even assuming people listen to me on Day 1, I probably get nightkilled Night 1 by the vig (who now knows me to be mafia or self-aligned), and if not, then I have no way to defend myself from a Day 2 lynch. I've attracted too much attention to myself for this to be a Mafia plot, and my fellow mafiates are not being convincing enough townies for the plan to work if I was some kind of sacrificial lamb. *wider, knowing wink*

3) I'm self-aligned. Doesn't matter if I targetted Moogle with any intelligent thought or not (keeping in mind that he has not posted once this game!), the fact is that a self-aligned player cannot get that far by attracting attention to themselves. In my original plan I expected to get investigated Night 2 AT THE LATEST (as in, if they check moogle night 1, they're still gonna check me night 2) and if I had been lying about my role, that would have been the end.

4) I'm town from the start. Roleclaiming mafia is a stupid, stupid idea and I should proceed to my nearest hospital for an emergency vasectomy to avoid contaminating the gene pool further with my horrifically low intelligence.

5) One of the above, but I'm trying to use reverse psychology. I probably would have changed my story, come up with a backup plan, or tried to call out somebody else's posts (a specific person!) as suspicious by this point.

The truth is that since I'm mafia, I CANNOT make a move against any other mafiate - including mentioning names, FoSing, or anything else direct-targetish - without getting GMkilled.

Luckily, it's totally within my alignment to lie about mafia members, so I'm gonna reward a few particularly clever people with Not-Mafia guarantees. Unfortunately, as confirmed townies/self-aligned, that will make you a higher priority target for mafia nightkills, of which there are several... so sorry about that drawback. But hey, maybe that'll make you more likely to take a risk and kill off someone I've confirmed to have nightkill ability? Like, say, Moogle?

FoS: IHateMakingNames because those were very good points.
FoS: Karesh because I sympathize with the way the board ate your post. Also, you are 100% accurate that this is going to be a silly bloodbath.
FoS: BahamutFlare because you were so accurate as a Vig last game. Maybe if you have killpowers you'll do just as well here?
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Unread 11-25-2011, 07:38 PM   #103
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Unread 11-25-2011, 07:46 PM   #104
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Ooh, there's also the possibility that I'm wrong on several of my points. It would be totally in keeping with what I know of Nikose for him to tell me something about my role that is an utter lie.

Heh. Maybe Moogle and I are The Lovers again.

Wait.

Fuck. That's totally what it is, isn't it.

NIKOOOOOOOOOOOOSE

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because he is totally mafia-aligned and I don't want nikose to gmkill me
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Unread 11-25-2011, 07:47 PM   #105
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I think you are also pushing to hard on the GM Kill aspect.

Mafia could simply tell Nikose not to GM Kill Kerensky because it's part of a plan.

My stance that this is all too much bullshit and it's easy to solve by lynching Kerensky remains.


Nikose, vote count?
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Unread 11-25-2011, 07:49 PM   #106
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Man I never do vote counts myself. I hate doing those.

I'll do it now.


Edit: I think Kerensky's got like, 4 on him.
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Mafia could simply tell Nikose not to GM Kill Kerensky because it's part of a plan.
Wait, that would work?

NIKOSE IT'S ALL PART OF THE PLAN

GONNA POST THE OTHER MAFIATE NAMES NOW KTHX
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Also IHMN that kind of implicates you, doesn't it?

If my FoSs were reverse psychology, doesn't that make you mafia?
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Unread 11-25-2011, 08:04 PM   #109
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The truth is that since I'm mafia, I CANNOT make a move against any other mafiate - including mentioning names, FoSing, or anything else direct-targetish - without getting GMkilled.
But you've already told us the don! Even if he's an exception, you've also told us their roles! There's you, the investigator, 3 kills, and that apparently moogle is either bulletproof or another mafiate can protect him. You've told us a lot! I'd assume that you either are scum wotking against your team, or you are not scum and just making shit up. And since you haven't been GM killed, then your'e probably just lying!

Everything Kerensky's is doing just reeks of strangeness. I maintain that he's putting himself in a damning situation. Either his role is literally to die on D1 or kill Moogle on D1. I don't even know why he'd do this, D1 is a bit too early for Gambits, so hiz role probably requires him to pull off whatever he needs to do D1.
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Unread 11-25-2011, 08:10 PM   #110
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Moogle is not bulletproof but considering the circumstances I'm 99% sure [bodyguard name] will protect him tonight.

Apparently telling people the roles is not the same as telling their names.

I am not on the same team as Moogle technically because of the loophole that I might kind of want to kill him. I'm pretty sure that, as a Starscream, I was supposed to be sitting around and just plotting against everybody in the world, but as I said, I think the self-aligned players are going to be a much bigger threat, and I'd rather face them with a united front. That's it.
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