Wear a dress, get suspended from school - Page 13

Professor Smarmiarty · 06-19-2011, 06:11 PM

That's why I'm here.
Like I could add other pointsbut there is not much to say:
Either he is suspendd for wearing a dress which is stupid
Or he is suspended for calling his principal sexist which is also stupid.

So instead it is much more productive to discuss how bangable he is.
And I defineatly wouldn't go there. He looks pretty fragile. And his caving into his principal's suspicion confirms this. He would break under my firm masculine hands within a minute.

Solid Snake · 06-19-2011, 06:13 PM

Honestly clothes are just clothes. Aside from keeping us warm, their primary function is to establish a sense of personal identity and self-worth though an image perceived by the brands and styles worn. One piece of fabric really isn't all that different from another.

From that perspective I'd personally kind of like to see the notion of crossdressing itself disappear into the netherworld. There should and always will remain cisgendered people and transgendered people, and there will always remain critical distinctions between "male" and "female." But I'm not sure if in the future clothes can or should be a serious dividing line.

As NonCon noted, cisgendered people may crossdress. And people who personally identify with their non-biological gender -- women who were born XY and men who were born XX -- actually shouldn't be considered to be crossdressing at all when they're wearing their associated gender's clothing. To insinuate that they are "crossdressing" when they are really being true to themselves is the ultimate insult. If a 'biological male' sincerely identifies as female, I think it's "crossdressing" for the school to make him dress as a male.

The SSB Intern · 06-19-2011, 06:14 PM

My male friend went to school in a dress and makeup for Halloween and my male psychology teacher wore hot pink short shorts and a tube top for spirit week.

Why the fuck don't I get to be on the news.

Professor Smarmiarty · 06-19-2011, 06:18 PM

We used to have cross-dressing days at school where you would be shamed for not cross-dressing. Why were we not on the news.

Nikose Tyris · 06-19-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NonCon

ALSO: As for why we shouldn't say, "Well, if you're going to wear a dress you have to be trans." is two-fold, from my perspective.

1. I think there are probably cis people who are genuinely interested in crossdressing.

Ya know, not to join this thread or anything but I think that kind of goes against the definition of 'cisgender'. But that's semantics.

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Originally Posted by NonCon

2. Regardless of whether a person is trans or just into crossdressing, being open is incredibly hard, but the desire to do these things can be pretty strong to. It can make things easier if you've got an excuse to hide behind. I was gonna use Bay to Breakers as an excuse to crossdress this year, for example, and before I was out to my friends I'd make jokes implying I was gay, and those jokes were born of my desire to be out but tempered by my fear of rejection.

That's an understandable position, but it doesn't seem to be what the article implies. Possibly it was? From what's visible, the boy claims to just be out to cause some mischief. Should we take that at its word?

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Originally Posted by NonCon

I do think there are trans or cis-crossdressing people who might see something like what happened with this student and use, "It's a joke with my mom" or something like that as an excuse to crossdress, because it's easier than saying, "Well, I'm actually the other gender." I think the positive effects of allowing people to crossdress for whatever reason outweight the cons.

I believe that's possible, but I don't know about 'easier'. Jockular jokes come more easily and can feel more hurtful when you hide your identity. When you're facing what your friends think of as humor can sting more then when you've got other people slingin' real insults.

Token · 06-19-2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Osterbaum

Just because it's written down on a list of (arguably) arbitrary rules the school administration propably thought up themselvs at some point in time does not make it such a serious and punishable offense.

Well in that case, seeing as rules don't matter because they're just written down arbitrarily, I'm going to take this opportunity to applaud you for somehow managing to be the single dumbest motherfucker in this entire thread. Because of your logic, the mods shouldn't be able to do jack shit for me saying that.

Bells · 06-19-2011, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Krylo

On a lighter note, he was pretty cute in that dress.

Your sense of Fashion is atrocious. He does not have the ass for that dress.

...his mom is kinda hot though. Loved the blue bangs in the forehead.

The Sevenshot Kid · 06-19-2011, 06:24 PM

I think this should be mentioned, the kid did talk about having a girlfriend when they interviewed him. Unless he was saying that in order to cover himself up (which I really hope he didn't because he shouldn't have to hide behind a fake girlfriend if he is gay/transgendered), I think it is safe to assume that he is at least heterosexual.

Krylo · 06-19-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris

That's an understandable position, but it doesn't seem to be what the article implies. Possibly it was? From what's visible, the boy claims to just be out to cause some mischief. Should we take that at its word?.

I'd say this is a gray area, honestly. His other offenses have involved wearing make-up. But we don't know in what degree.

But he also suggested he is going to do 'even more wild and crazy things' after this, which implies he just likes causing trouble.

And don't get me wrong when I say he's probably a shit. He's totally the kind of shit that is super fun to hang out with and I totally endorse 100%. Just that I suspect he's probably a constant headache for authority figures.

The Sevenshot Kid · 06-19-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Token

Well in that case, seeing as rules don't matter because they're just written down arbitrarily, I'm going to take this opportunity to applaud you for somehow managing to be the single dumbest motherfucker in this entire thread. Because of your logic, the mods shouldn't be able to do jack shit for me saying that.

I'll miss you.

06-19-2011, 06:13 PM	#122
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	Honestly clothes are just clothes. Aside from keeping us warm, their primary function is to establish a sense of personal identity and self-worth though an image perceived by the brands and styles worn. One piece of fabric really isn't all that different from another. From that perspective I'd personally kind of like to see the notion of crossdressing itself disappear into the netherworld. There should and always will remain cisgendered people and transgendered people, and there will always remain critical distinctions between "male" and "female." But I'm not sure if in the future clothes can or should be a serious dividing line. As NonCon noted, cisgendered people may crossdress. And people who personally identify with their non-biological gender -- women who were born XY and men who were born XX -- actually shouldn't be considered to be crossdressing at all when they're wearing their associated gender's clothing. To insinuate that they are "crossdressing" when they are really being true to themselves is the ultimate insult. If a 'biological male' sincerely identifies as female, I think it's "crossdressing" for the school to make him dress as a male. __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text.

06-19-2011, 06:14 PM	#123
The SSB Intern We'll have to do this the hard way. Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Behind it all. Posts: 1,009	My male friend went to school in a dress and makeup for Halloween and my male psychology teacher wore hot pink short shorts and a tube top for spirit week. Why the fuck don't I get to be on the news. __________________ You know who never sleeps? My gun.

06-19-2011, 06:11 PM	#121
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	That's why I'm here. Like I could add other pointsbut there is not much to say: Either he is suspendd for wearing a dress which is stupid Or he is suspended for calling his principal sexist which is also stupid. So instead it is much more productive to discuss how bangable he is. And I defineatly wouldn't go there. He looks pretty fragile. And his caving into his principal's suspicion confirms this. He would break under my firm masculine hands within a minute.

06-19-2011, 06:18 PM	#124
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	We used to have cross-dressing days at school where you would be shamed for not cross-dressing. Why were we not on the news.

06-19-2011, 06:24 PM	#128
The Sevenshot Kid of Northwest Arizona Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: California, USA Posts: 1,492	I think this should be mentioned, the kid did talk about having a girlfriend when they interviewed him. Unless he was saying that in order to cover himself up (which I really hope he didn't because he shouldn't have to hide behind a fake girlfriend if he is gay/transgendered), I think it is safe to assume that he is at least heterosexual.