Dissidia Duodecim Final Fantasy continues Squeenix's tradition of stupid titles

[EVILNess]

Originally Posted by bluestarultor

Counter-rebuttal: previous design choices.

Counter-Counter-Rebuttal: Every successive Final Fantasy game throws out most of the previous design choices.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by EVILNess

Counter-Counter-Rebuttal: Every successive Final Fantasy game throws out most of the previous design choices.

Counter-counter-counter-rebuttal: this is neither a main-line title, nor has the information released so far indicated a shift in spirit as much as a technical shift. Also, design choices not being recycled lends itself to the inclusion of new mechanics or major updates to sufficiently old ones more than recycling them in the context of the next subsequent iteration. ;P

In all seriousness, we have no way of knowing anything for sure right now. I'd prefer to leave that argument alone in part because the more I have to argue about Seifer, the more I have to think about a character that I both dislike and begrudgingly pity. Seifer would be slightly more sympathetic if he were at all likable, but the truth is that the tragedy is mostly lost because he brought it upon himself because of his arrogance, ego, distorted values, outright amorality, Oedipus complex, sociopathy, violent tendencies, and especially distorted self-image which he uses to justify it all even after there's nothing left for him to cling to but his rivalry with Squall, abandoned by even his closest allies for his irrationality and with no more pretense of a higher cause to serve as an excuse for all he's wrought on the path to his own ultimate and inevitable destruction.



...As evidenced by how much I actually ended up writing, I think it's clear I think he's an ass. If he makes it onto the side of Chaos, he'll be the only one who's in it for all the wrong reasons, which says something in the context of villains. Out of all the villains in the series, none of them are nearly as misguided and willfully ignorant of their own wrongdoings and self-destructive behaviors as Seifer. He's the only villain of the series who would toss aside redemption if it were offered, which is the only reason I feel sorry for him, because he's also the only villain who it would be offered to and the only one who could truly appreciate and reap its benefits if he weren't too much of a wad to accept it.

[Kim]

But he has a cool jacket.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by NonCon

But he has a cool jacket.

So does Rufus. :P

[Kim]

I thought they were the same guy.

[Nique]

Originally Posted by NonCon

Get rid of equipment cuz goddamn son.

I think I've repped you enough lately so I'm raising my expectations. One rep for every 4 posts I find awesome. Blues, that goes for you too now. :/

Anydangways, I agree with this suggestion mostly. Mostly becuase equipping stuff is rad and fun for customization but understanding the whole item store was a bitch.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by NonCon

I thought they were the same guy.

Seifer doesn't have jack on Rufus. Rufus spent his childhood doing things like convincing his father to build him personal escape hatches that he's use decades later and his teen years funding a terrorist cell with the express purpose of destabilizing his father's power so he could take over. Despite never having seen a drop of Mako, he's strong enough to wield a full shotgun in one hand and his reputation of ruthlessness states that even as a child, no one ever saw him bleed his own blood or cry. After nonchalantly taking control of a world-dominating corporation without a whit of concern for his father's bloody demise, in fact, with a speech prepared, he commissions a giant cannon to be not built, but MOVED, from his hometown and military base no less, and it's done in at most a matter of days. He soon after escapes a giant monster's vaporizing beam by using the escape chute he convinced his father to build specifically for him in childhood and after the events of FF7 builds the settlement of Edge out of the ruins of Midgar, subsequently funds yet another new world order, and places a goddamn statue claiming it all in plain sight to get people used to the idea of him ruling it all again. He also personally guards the last remnant of Jenova unbeknownst to all but possibly his closest associates and has the balls to reveal it to a guy who outclasses him hands-down in terms of physical and magical power and then call the guy a bad son for not having figured it out before jumping off one of the upper floors of a ruined office building with full knowledge that his subordinates have been highly trained enough to be prepared for such an occurrence and shoot nets to catch him before he splatters.


Compared to him, Seifer is a sniveling pansy who's not fit to lead a parade. :P

[Kim]

Originally Posted by bluestarultor

Seifer is a sniveling pansy who's not fit to lead a parade.

But he did!

[POS Industries]

Originally Posted by bluestarultor

no one ever saw him bleed his own blood

...Whose blood did he bleed, then?

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by NonCon

But he did!

No, he sat on a float and thought he was amazing for it. :P

Originally Posted by POS Industries

...Whose blood did he bleed, then?

Obviously, he spent much of his childhood covered in the blood of others, probably adults after kicking their asses with nothing but his bare hands in order to make sure he had a counter to any fighting style just in case it ever came up.