Hatland Mafia

[Geminex]

IC: Fair enough. I get that playstyle might vary. But Snake in particular seens to be expecting to see something from you, and I'd be interested in a bit more background on that.

As for Earl... gah. Can you actually give examples of what you think Snake is doing? Cause I'd be interested in hearing an elaboration, if there is one.

I get that the big list might have been suspicious, and honestly, I'm not sure if it was all that productive, but your case still seems pretty shaky.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Inbred Chocobo

Karesh, I've prodded your flames now, and your general reaction to my vote was pleasing, so for now I am
Unvote: Karesh

<3.

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

I am kind of curious why you moved off of Karesh and onto Shyria though, IC. If it's a matter of the P-Sleazy vote, Karesh is voting for him still, too.

In the mood to defend him since the above but voting for someone purely to see their reaction is a pretty common tactic in early game. IC sees there's already a vote on me which means a few more votes puts me under pressure, and I'm obliged to respond. Therefore, no matter what my response is IC gains information on how I act.

[Sifright]

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

I was thinking on it even more, and I'm definitely feeling more comfortable (More CONFIDENT OMG) in voting Snake or Sifright. By saying that showing confidence = scum, they're trying to get me to theorize less, post less, and play less, which means worse things for the town. This goes directly against Snake's whole, "I wanted dialogs to happen! They're good for the town!" thing that he was saying. It's true that conversation is good for the town, so why do you want a player to stop posting things that lead to conversation.

You say that you sparked this big dialog a few pages back, Snake, which pulls focus off of what started the big dialog in the first place: You seemed very suspicious.


I am kind of curious why you moved off of Karesh and onto Shyria though, IC. If it's a matter of the P-Sleazy vote, Karesh is voting for him still, too.

Earlier you attempted to conflate confidence with competence, which is the issue a pretty odd thing to do see being more confident is kind of odd because as a townie i've no fucking idea who is mafia and who isn't, in the previous game I could be a little more reckless with who i suspected because I knew one other person had a massively higher chance of being town which reduced the odds of me hitting townies with suspicion because I had the ability to deduce alot more from how people were voting. Unless you have more information we are unaware of you can't really be certain of who is or isn't mafia as there are no real scum tells day one besides bizzare mistakes.

Originally Posted by Aldurin

You're lucky though, it sounds like you didn't get your role described as "make your vote, sit the fuck down and don't ruin any shit".

Being a vanilla makes the game seem less exciting, but getting it because of my bad track record with power roles is a low blow.

Bookworm, you're an asshole.

Like Aldurin for instance claiming nilla townie and stating that bookie castigated him for last game I totally don't believe bookie would do that.

besides which vanilla townies never want to admit to being nilla, because it gives the mafia a smaller list of power targets to hit

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Hawk

Not sure I agree with the inexplicable bandwagoning of P-Sleazy either. He hasn't done much yet and still somehow has 3 votes. Granted they could just be joke votes that have been left on, but one of them is from Karesh, who's already acting odd.

Vote: Karesh

Can you clarify this a bit? I've heard that I'm acting "odd" a few times, but I'm really not seeing much of the followup logic from anybody on it so far.
If I'm seeming suspicious I'd like to actually know why and what is making me suspicious or odd so I can avoid it in the future, thanks.

Also in response to the P-Sleazy vote thing, you might actually notice something looking at the list of who's voting what:
Fuckers still voting for me.

Originally Posted by Sifright

FOS:Karesh (I don't believe a town power would be stupid enough to out them selves d1)

...We spent an entire game together under the premise that I was exactly that stupid.
I am wounded, Sif.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk]

Originally Posted by Karesh

Weeeelll, I'll just come out and say that when I said lacking in concrete power, what I meant was that I'm not able to kill people on a whim.

I don't want to say anything else pertaining to my role as it's so early and hey you never know who's listening, but that's the top and bottom of it.

Mainly this post here Karesh. You seem to be somewhat implying that you have a power role. On day 1. That is either a completely stupid thing to do or you're lieing about something. Considering you went and outed yourself with Sif early last game and started a massive debate on whether or not you were being truthful or not, almost to the point were I suggested vig attacking you to test your claim, I'd have thought you'd be more careful about revealing shit like that. And if you didn't want to say anything more about your role yet, then you wouldn't have made that post at all.

And as for Sleazy still voting for you, it seems pretty clear that his vote was a joke, so keeping your vote on him, espically since he's currently tied with Aldurin for lynching is a poor reason. Judging by Sleazys general lack of activity so far I'm gona go out on a limb and say he probably just hasn't gotten around to unvoting you. Though it's not like you're in immediate danger of being lynched yourself, so Sleazys vote for you is hardly a major threat, which makes you voting him back look particularly scummy.

Oh and on the "odd" comment, looking over the thread again part of it was just IC chastising you for using previous games knowledge to make assumptions, which is also what I've been doing myself, so I can't blame you for that. At the time I said that I couldn't remember exactly what the other reasons people thought you were acting odd were, which was entirely my own fault for not checking thoroughly first. I retract my odd comment. You're just acting scummy for the above stated reasons instead.

[Bard The 5th LW]

ARG BACKLOG

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Hawk

Mainly this post here Karesh. You seem to be somewhat implying that you have a power role. On day 1. That is either a completely stupid thing to do or you're lieing about something. Considering you went and outed yourself with Sif early last game and started a massive debate on whether or not you were being truthful or not, almost to the point were I suggested vig attacking you to test your claim, I'd have thought you'd be more careful about revealing shit like that. And if you didn't want to say anything more about your role yet, then you wouldn't have made that post at all.

I didn't meant to imply much of anything about my role, only that I can't kill people on a whim.
Literally, that I cannot kill people on a whim is all that I said about my role, and at the end of the day even that might just be an outright lie.
Hell, just like P-Sleazy joked back I might just be a mafiate but not the Don, it still fits the criteria.

And as for Sleazy still voting for you, it seems pretty clear that his vote was a joke, so keeping your vote on him, espically since he's currently tied with Aldurin for lynching is a poor reason. Judging by Sleazys general lack of activity so far I'm gona go out on a limb and say he probably just hasn't gotten around to unvoting you. Though it's not like you're in immediate danger of being lynched yourself, so Sleazys vote for you is hardly a major threat, which makes you voting him back look particularly scummy.

meh.
He voted for me first, I'm not unvoting him until that changes. It's a bit petty, but there's principles I've got to uphold.

Besides he's tied at, what? Three?
Out of eleven.

[Bard The 5th LW]

Okay I've read most of the backlog, and I'm putting Karesh on my FOS for the moment, because she's being odd. I'd put Shyria there, but Shyria hasn't posted much and you're justified in posting silly shit on your first few posts on D1.

Still not changing my vote for the moment though.

[Kerensky287]

Originally Posted by Karesh

Besides he's tied at, what? Three?
Out of eleven.

Yes, tied. With someone whom (I think) is widely suspected to be a mafiate. And when the time expires, the person with the highest votecount is lynched... unless there's a tie, in which case a tiebreaker is required.

FoS: Karesh

It's weak reasoning, I know. That's part of the reason I'm not calling for a lynch outright. But if a fellow mafiate is in the town's sights, and you can give him a chance by voting for the person in second place, then it never hurts to push for a tie.

"Because he voted for me" is a crappy reason. He's not the only one who voted for you, and it was an obvious jokevote. That, combined with the utterly barren posts you've been making, makes me suspect you as mafia.

[Sifright]

Originally Posted by Karesh

...We spent an entire game together under the premise that I was exactly that stupid.
I am wounded, Sif.

Come on man, it was a totally different situation you were completely invulnerable. Plus you were Fluttershy I was 'The Doctor' and my pm from fenris clearly implied a subtext . WE had been together for 900 years, but nah bros for life <3.