Should Comedians Be Held Accountable For The Things That They Say? - Page 2

Funka Genocide · 02-25-2010, 02:36 PM

Well I don't know exactly what the dude said so its hard to say if he was wrong or right.

I mean getting cheesed off at some jackasses that are ruining your show is perfectly fine, but venting that anger in the form of remarks that do more to disparage an entire sub-sect of society rather than the persons in question is probably not a good idea.

Saying something like "You two are a couple of fucks who should shoot themselves" is perfectly ok since it's being very specific and doesn't use any prejudicial commentary.

But if your insults are derived from prejudice, then it sort of loses water. Calling women bitches is sexist, since its gender specific. Calling them bull dykes or rug munchers or whatever is prejudicial in that it disparages lesbians.

I personally advocate the universal usage of asshole and fuck in all crude insult language, mainly for the sake of the children.

As for racially motivated comedy that isn't directly insulting, well I feel it's a bit of a gray area. For some reason I find myself laughing at certain routines by the likes of Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle but I can't stand Carlos Mencia. Maybe it's just a certain intellect and a healthy dose of satire that are used by some to temper the overt racism that makes it more palatable.

Of course, stereotypes often times exist for a reason. Pointing out the reality of stereotypes can be hilarious and even somewhat eye opening. Going through life assuming that everyone is a unique and special flower that is in no way affected by their subculture is just as willfully ignorant as assuming everyone's personality is entirely dictated by their subculture.

DFM · 02-25-2010, 02:49 PM

Really it's just because Carlos Mencia is awful.

Funka Genocide · 02-25-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DFM

Really it's just because Carlos Mencia is awful.

yeah, that too.

DFM · 02-25-2010, 02:53 PM

And I like Dane Cook so when I tell you a comedian is awful god damn.

Mirai Gen · 02-25-2010, 02:55 PM

Yeah I remember Mencia's Race Olympics where he had competitors investigate dick size and steal a TV and eat watermelon.

That's pretty much it.

Funka Genocide · 02-25-2010, 02:58 PM

You know I really never could understand the basis for food related racism.

Who the fuck doesn't like watermelon and fried chicken? Seriously. That shit is delicious, fuck you.

Marc v4.0 · 02-25-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Funka Genocide

You know I really never could understand the basis for food related racism.

Who the fuck doesn't like watermelon and fried chicken? Seriously. That shit is delicious, fuck you.

I live in the South. Wrap your mind around a group of 3 older white men making fun of black people liking chicken WHILE EATING UP 3 BUCKETS OF CHICKEN.

I swear if I ever get a brain tumor I'm blaming that scene

Archbio · 02-25-2010, 03:06 PM

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Who the fuck doesn't like watermelon and fried chicken? Seriously. That shit is delicious, fuck you.

Just not together.

Funka Genocide · 02-25-2010, 03:09 PM

I always feel kind of bad when someone mentions the stereotype of Hispanic Americans living 15 people to a house, because I don't want it to be true but then I remember that I pretty much grew up this way and that some of my family still has kids sleeping in cupboards and whatnot. (Well not exactly, but seriously how the fuck do you get 4 families into a 3 bedroom house?)

Archbio · 02-25-2010, 03:11 PM

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(Well not exactly, but seriously how the fuck do you get 4 families into a 3 bedroom house?)

There's always a couple of dimensions that aren't being used in any given space.

02-25-2010, 02:36 PM	#11
Funka Genocide Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,566	Well I don't know exactly what the dude said so its hard to say if he was wrong or right. I mean getting cheesed off at some jackasses that are ruining your show is perfectly fine, but venting that anger in the form of remarks that do more to disparage an entire sub-sect of society rather than the persons in question is probably not a good idea. Saying something like "You two are a couple of fucks who should shoot themselves" is perfectly ok since it's being very specific and doesn't use any prejudicial commentary. But if your insults are derived from prejudice, then it sort of loses water. Calling women bitches is sexist, since its gender specific. Calling them bull dykes or rug munchers or whatever is prejudicial in that it disparages lesbians. I personally advocate the universal usage of asshole and fuck in all crude insult language, mainly for the sake of the children. As for racially motivated comedy that isn't directly insulting, well I feel it's a bit of a gray area. For some reason I find myself laughing at certain routines by the likes of Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle but I can't stand Carlos Mencia. Maybe it's just a certain intellect and a healthy dose of satire that are used by some to temper the overt racism that makes it more palatable. Of course, stereotypes often times exist for a reason. Pointing out the reality of stereotypes can be hilarious and even somewhat eye opening. Going through life assuming that everyone is a unique and special flower that is in no way affected by their subculture is just as willfully ignorant as assuming everyone's personality is entirely dictated by their subculture. Last edited by Funka Genocide; 02-25-2010 at 02:49 PM.

02-25-2010, 02:49 PM	#12
DFM Om Nom Nom Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,850	Really it's just because Carlos Mencia is awful. __________________ [14:26] ManoftheRus: YOU GODDAMN SNEAKY DEE

02-25-2010, 02:53 PM	#14
DFM Om Nom Nom Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,850	And I like Dane Cook so when I tell you a comedian is awful god damn. __________________ [14:26] ManoftheRus: YOU GODDAMN SNEAKY DEE

02-25-2010, 02:55 PM	#15
Mirai Gen We are Geth. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 14,032	Yeah I remember Mencia's Race Olympics where he had competitors investigate dick size and steal a TV and eat watermelon. That's pretty much it. __________________

02-25-2010, 02:58 PM	#16
Funka Genocide Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,566	You know I really never could understand the basis for food related racism. Who the fuck doesn't like watermelon and fried chicken? Seriously. That shit is delicious, fuck you.

02-25-2010, 03:09 PM	#19
Funka Genocide Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4,566	I always feel kind of bad when someone mentions the stereotype of Hispanic Americans living 15 people to a house, because I don't want it to be true but then I remember that I pretty much grew up this way and that some of my family still has kids sleeping in cupboards and whatnot. (Well not exactly, but seriously how the fuck do you get 4 families into a 3 bedroom house?)