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[Pip Boy]

I seem to be caught in that infinite loop blue was talking about. The only hint is that there must be another way out, which, if this game is consistent, means that there isn't. I thought maybe it was some kind of allusion to trying to use the entrance to leave, but that got me nowhere. I know its going to be something annoying and stupid when I find out what it is.

[Jagos]

It was when I did it.

[Loyal]

My favorite/hatiest part is when the level itself lies to you, and the actual platforms you have to jump have no relation to what you see.

If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, the relation is that the platforms you see is the mirror image of what actually is.

[Amake]

Ooh I did not see that.

About that loop level, I got lucky and beat it on the first try. Cause I had to go to the bathroom.

[Magus]

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

Except for when you don't.

Well, there are a few levels where he doesn't say anything either way, sometimes he tells some half-truths, as well, but basically it's true but with enough misleading bits to screw you over. Hell, the final battle is entirely based on looking at all the parts of his statement and determining they are a lie, not just doing the opposite of what he says (continuing), but discerning that "we'll both be destroyed" is just as untrue as well.

Of course, just to really screw with you, there is at least one statement that is completely true, an attempt to win you over to his side.

I'm not saying there isn't any finesse to the puzzles at all, especially those where he says nothing and we find we do have to use things we'd otherwise avoid sometimes (such as buttons), discovering that in some contexts what is normally bad is good (pitfalls, buttons), but that what is normally good is bad (switches, but not always), so it becomes a tricky mindscrew that first reverses normal associations of what is good in games, but then also throws in the wrench that even after this reversal, what is good is bad is sometimes good again.

But overall you just do the opposite of what he says, opposing our normal instinct to trust in-game help. Obviously there are exceptions but the basic idea of the whole thing is that what we normally accept as help in games is actually out to kill us, and we have to continually work to ignore its advice. I actually found it difficult at times to not do what he says, which I think comments on how use we are to in-game tutorials and instructions being the word of God.

Hey, Megaman, for the "other way out" if you want a hint that isn't a total spoiler read this spoiler: sometimes Tutorial Man isn't a total liar, he wants your trust so he tells the truth in order to make the rest of his lies seem more appealing, like a real person would..

If you're still stuck, here's another spoilier spoiler: patience is a virtue.

Here's the spoiliest spoiler of all: "How to get into Master Blargh's dungeon in Earthbound."

If you're still stuck after all that just look the solution up online I guess?

[Pip Boy]

Yeah, I figured it out a few hours ago when I was standing next to the exit and started watching TV, then looked back to see that the light pillar was gone. I have to say the ending was rather unfulfilling. It was very abrupt and didn't feel very rewarding. Also, I haven't found any solution to the mirror image other than to desynchronize them with a spike.

[Loyal]

That is the solution.

[PyrosNine]

Sorta like beating Shadow link by beating him with hammer!

[Pip Boy]

Originally Posted by PyrosNine

Sorta like beating Shadow link by beating him with a fuckton of Din's Fire and mana potions!

Fix'd.

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by Megaman FTW

The only hint is that there must be another way out, which, if this game is consistent, means that there isn't.

Read the name of the level.

Originally Posted by Magus

Well, there are a few levels where he doesn't say anything either way, sometimes he tells some half-truths, as well

There is one point at which he tells the unarguable truth.

It's the place Megaman was stuck.