Dragon Age: A stupid game. Also, a dumb game. - Page 2

Fifthfiend · 09-10-2010, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krylo

So you're romancing Leilianna?

There's your problem right there.

Options: Leliana, Alastair, that fucking douchebag elf.

People whose fault it isn't that they didn't make Morrigan the lesbian: not mine.

EDIT: All i'm asking for is to roleplay an evil, orphan-killing lesbian, blowing shit up with magic along with her evil, orphan-killing girlfriend.

I'm not asking for a lot.

Fifthfiend · 09-10-2010, 05:30 PM

Alastair tried to give my character a rose.

I hadda be like, boy, no.

Fifthfiend · 09-10-2010, 05:34 PM

This game would be a lot better if every time Alastair talks, you can make your dog bite him.

Great Cartoonist · 09-10-2010, 05:38 PM

If you have a toolset you can make your own campaign in which everything that you just described will happen.

I'm not sure how complex Dragon Age's toolset is, but if it's anything like Neverwinter Nights' toolset then you should be able to learn how to use it by yourself.

Also I am reminded of the Hordes of the Underdark expansion for Neverwinter Nights in which there's always an option to "Reprimand Deekin" whenever you talk to him if he's in your party.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 09-10-2010, 05:55 PM

Leliana is the hot redhead right? Yeah, I can see why you made this choice...

I was going to borrow this game from a friend a while back when I was bored. Then I grew some sense and realised how boring it looked.

Krylo · 09-10-2010, 05:57 PM

Lel is the only (young) female character with a fully exposed forehead.

There is a reason all the other women have their foreheads hidden.

Hint: Bioware is not good at making emotive foreheads without also making the character look like she is 60.

She also just has a weird face all around.

ALSO: Alistair is a way better love interest than Lel. He may be a fumbling virgin but at least he doesn't try to talk to you about goddamn French fashion and how great it is.

EDIT:

Lel: SHOES SHOES SHOES I LOVE SHOES ALSO DRESSES OH MY GOD DRESSES AND HAIR AND SHOES AND DRESS AND HAIR AND DRESSES AND SHOES SHOES SHOES AND THE MAKER THE MAKER IS GREAT AND HE TALKS TO ME AND I AM NOT CRAZY AT ALL SHOOOOOOES!

Al: ...So... how do you undo the bra again?

Zev: Sooooooo... wanna fuck?

One of these is clearly inferior.

Hint: It is Lel.

Edit 2: I made a rogue specifically because Zevran sucks at lock picking and I didn't want to bring crazy bitch ass along.

Aerozord · 09-10-2010, 06:10 PM

Gotta wonder if there is some underlying message. Considering how all the female love interest are a really pain to keep happy. The only one harder to please then them is Sten. I mean, yea he has a point about the encroaching dark spawn, but not like I have to be reminded of it every time I do a side-quest, or hell even most of the main quest

Krylo · 09-10-2010, 06:13 PM

I had no problem keeping Morrigan happy, personally. But that's 'cause I ALSO like to bite my thumb at the theocracy.

Liquid Snake · 09-10-2010, 06:15 PM

I have to confess that I was kind of a little disappointed with Dragon Age, not because it's a terrible game or anything, but more because it just absolutely does not compare in any way, shape or form with Mass Effect.

Dragon Age is pretty standard whitewashed, prototypical Tolkienian fantasy, complete with unoriginal elements like elves and dwarves, and the only thing that elevated Dragon Age into the realm of the truly unique was the dialogue. But even then it was mostly just the concept of adding modern-sounding, charismatic 21st century elements to Tolkien, like having the writers of Arrested Development craft a narrative for Lord of the Rings. There are moments where it's quite clever, but it really never gripped me in the way I hoped it would.

Whereas Mass Effect just sucker-punches you with fucking awesome original, deep, delightful storytelling from the get-go, and never lets go.

I also think that the sheer breadth of options for your character's origins in Dragon Age made the beginning of the game (the respective Origins stories, and up until that initial Two Towers style battle sequence) considerably more interesting than the beginning of Mass Effect. But once the origin stories ended, the fact that the storyline had to accommodate so many vastly different versions of the main character hurt the overall quality of the narration. With Shepard, you really only have four versions (renegade and paragon, male and female) of the character so it's easier to go into considerable depth and make Shepard a living, breathing entity. Your character in Origins, by contrast, never really speaks and feels ancillary to the entire plot. That's one reason why I'm actually in the minority and I'm actually glad that Bioware's purposefully making Dragon Age II more like Mass Effect, I think the story can improve tremendously.

EDIT: Also I have to confess that my experience with Dragon Age: Origins has been tainted by trying (and failing) to effectively play a Male Noble Rogue. I understand why some people say the Rogue's the best class in terms of DPS or something but I suck with a Rogue, and simply by switching out to supporting characters I can already tell I'd play a Mage or a Tank-style Warrior far better. With my Rogue build, I have to get in close with two weapons, but I can barely take any damage before I'm dead.

EDIT 2: Realized once Fifthfiend quoted me that I accidentally called DA: Origins "DA: II" there.

Fifthfiend · 09-10-2010, 06:16 PM

Yeah Morrigan loves me, we are like orphan-shanking best buddies.

Totally platonic orphan-shanking best buddies.

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Originally Posted by Liquid Snake

EDIT: Also I have to confess that my experience with Dragon Age II has been tainted by trying (and failing) to effectively play a Male Noble Rogue. I understand why some people say the Rogue's the best class in terms of DPS or something but I suck with a Rogue, and simply by switching out to supporting characters I can already tell I'd play a Mage or a Tank-style Warrior far better. With my Rogue build, I have to get in close with two weapons, but I can barely take any damage before I'm dead.

The one thing I unreservedly love about this game is how shamelessly fucking cheap Magicks is.

Blizzard > Blizzard > Tempest > Firestorm and everything's dead before we ever even shake hands.

09-10-2010, 05:30 PM	#12
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	Alastair tried to give my character a rose. I hadda be like, boy, no. __________________ check out my buttspresso

09-10-2010, 05:34 PM	#13
Fifthfiend for all seasons Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 19,409	This game would be a lot better if every time Alastair talks, you can make your dog bite him. __________________ check out my buttspresso

09-10-2010, 05:38 PM	#14
Great Cartoonist An increasingly inaccurate name Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: University. Don't try to reach me; it'll be a long wait. Posts: 509	If you have a toolset you can make your own campaign in which everything that you just described will happen. I'm not sure how complex Dragon Age's toolset is, but if it's anything like Neverwinter Nights' toolset then you should be able to learn how to use it by yourself. Also I am reminded of the Hordes of the Underdark expansion for Neverwinter Nights in which there's always an option to "Reprimand Deekin" whenever you talk to him if he's in your party. __________________ Nope. Not happening. Last edited by Great Cartoonist; 09-10-2010 at 05:41 PM.

09-10-2010, 05:57 PM	#16
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Lel is the only (young) female character with a fully exposed forehead. There is a reason all the other women have their foreheads hidden. Hint: Bioware is not good at making emotive foreheads without also making the character look like she is 60. She also just has a weird face all around. ALSO: Alistair is a way better love interest than Lel. He may be a fumbling virgin but at least he doesn't try to talk to you about goddamn French fashion and how great it is. EDIT: Lel: SHOES SHOES SHOES I LOVE SHOES ALSO DRESSES OH MY GOD DRESSES AND HAIR AND SHOES AND DRESS AND HAIR AND DRESSES AND SHOES SHOES SHOES AND THE MAKER THE MAKER IS GREAT AND HE TALKS TO ME AND I AM NOT CRAZY AT ALL SHOOOOOOES! Al: ...So... how do you undo the bra again? Zev: Sooooooo... wanna fuck? One of these is clearly inferior. Hint: It is Lel. Edit 2: I made a rogue specifically because Zevran sucks at lock picking and I didn't want to bring crazy bitch ass along. __________________ I am very tired. Last edited by Krylo; 09-10-2010 at 06:02 PM.

09-10-2010, 06:10 PM	#17
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	Gotta wonder if there is some underlying message. Considering how all the female love interest are a really pain to keep happy. The only one harder to please then them is Sten. I mean, yea he has a point about the encroaching dark spawn, but not like I have to be reminded of it every time I do a side-quest, or hell even most of the main quest __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

09-10-2010, 06:13 PM	#18
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	I had no problem keeping Morrigan happy, personally. But that's 'cause I ALSO like to bite my thumb at the theocracy. __________________ I am very tired.

09-10-2010, 06:15 PM	#19
Liquid Snake Troopa Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 74	I have to confess that I was kind of a little disappointed with Dragon Age, not because it's a terrible game or anything, but more because it just absolutely does not compare in any way, shape or form with Mass Effect. Dragon Age is pretty standard whitewashed, prototypical Tolkienian fantasy, complete with unoriginal elements like elves and dwarves, and the only thing that elevated Dragon Age into the realm of the truly unique was the dialogue. But even then it was mostly just the concept of adding modern-sounding, charismatic 21st century elements to Tolkien, like having the writers of Arrested Development craft a narrative for Lord of the Rings. There are moments where it's quite clever, but it really never gripped me in the way I hoped it would. Whereas Mass Effect just sucker-punches you with fucking awesome original, deep, delightful storytelling from the get-go, and never lets go. I also think that the sheer breadth of options for your character's origins in Dragon Age made the beginning of the game (the respective Origins stories, and up until that initial Two Towers style battle sequence) considerably more interesting than the beginning of Mass Effect. But once the origin stories ended, the fact that the storyline had to accommodate so many vastly different versions of the main character hurt the overall quality of the narration. With Shepard, you really only have four versions (renegade and paragon, male and female) of the character so it's easier to go into considerable depth and make Shepard a living, breathing entity. Your character in Origins, by contrast, never really speaks and feels ancillary to the entire plot. That's one reason why I'm actually in the minority and I'm actually glad that Bioware's purposefully making Dragon Age II more like Mass Effect, I think the story can improve tremendously. EDIT: Also I have to confess that my experience with Dragon Age: Origins has been tainted by trying (and failing) to effectively play a Male Noble Rogue. I understand why some people say the Rogue's the best class in terms of DPS or something but I suck with a Rogue, and simply by switching out to supporting characters I can already tell I'd play a Mage or a Tank-style Warrior far better. With my Rogue build, I have to get in close with two weapons, but I can barely take any damage before I'm dead. EDIT 2: Realized once Fifthfiend quoted me that I accidentally called DA: Origins "DA: II" there. Last edited by Liquid Snake; 09-10-2010 at 06:21 PM.