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Unread 12-16-2011, 05:20 PM   #221
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Unread 12-16-2011, 05:25 PM   #222
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Further reason to FoS Gregness that I just noticed: He claimed this didn't seem like a power game, which I suspect is what led to him claiming vanilla.

However, here are the roles we know of/have seen claimed:
-Me, vig
-Lawful, 2xvoter
-Inbred, mafia roleblocker
-Nikose, miller/dickbag
-Geminex, Marshmallow Boy #3, probable mason
-RPGdemon, probable mason
-A third mason
-Greed, role selector

That's 8 players in a 14-player game with some kind of unusual role. More than 50%. That just screams power game to me, which leads me to believe that Gregness is lying about his role.
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Unread 12-16-2011, 05:56 PM   #223
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I received a PM from Bard explaining that I was protected for the remainder of Night 1.
The flavor text included mentioned a bird giving me the armor, so I don't doubt him.
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Unread 12-16-2011, 06:20 PM   #224
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Further reason to FoS Gregness that I just noticed: He claimed this didn't seem like a power game, which I suspect is what led to him claiming vanilla.

However, here are the roles we know of/have seen claimed:
-Me, vig
-Lawful, 2xvoter
-Inbred, mafia roleblocker
-Nikose, miller/dickbag
-Geminex, Marshmallow Boy #3, probable mason
-RPGdemon, probable mason
-A third mason
-Greed, role selector

That's 8 players in a 14-player game with some kind of unusual role. More than 50%. That just screams power game to me, which leads me to believe that Gregness is lying about his role.
I didn't mean to imply that this was entirely a vanilla game. I imagine the degree of powers is something just below the saturation in the MLP mafia game. And, if you take a look at that list and what I said which was:

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Well, I'm not sure there are that many power roles to begin with. The last few games have been crazy, high powered affairs but this game seems much more standard so far. I wouldn't expect there to be much more than a cop a doc and a vig with some people having some one-shot things.
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I wouldn't expect there to be much more than a cop a doc and a vig with some people having some one-shot things.
You'll note in that list you gave that basically holds. Few power roles =\= vanilla. Like, maybe this is just semantics on my part, but when I say power roles I think of repeatable or constant effects. I would honestly be very surprised if mafia had any more power roles. Maybe a strongman, but I dunno. Double-voting is kind of cute, I guess, but it's sort of 150% of a vanilla townie if that makes sense. I think trying to construe "miller" as a power role would be too much of a stretch for Mr. Fantastic. Then only thing it does is serve to make the cop (if one exists) weaker.

Mason is cool, I guess, but still kind of tame for the power level of the last few games in the forum.

The big point, to re-emphasize, is that I don't think low power =\= vanilla.

Like, I dunno, nothing I said is contradicted by facts and if wasn't already 95% sure you were legit with your townie Vig this would be some serious scum vibes.
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Unread 12-16-2011, 06:21 PM   #225
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Ugh, that second to last line should read:

"The big point, to re-emphasize, is that I don't think low power = vanilla."

At what point is it okay to edit? I feel pretty dumb having to double-post for this.
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Unread 12-16-2011, 06:33 PM   #226
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Unread 12-16-2011, 06:36 PM   #227
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Kerensky, I for sure can log on midnight EST. And you guys finished the lynch on IC 2 hours before I got to a computer. And now that it's evening and I have nowhere to go, I can post. Also, you were the weirdest acting on D1. Even you admitted you went to far. Usually I can see that as a classic cover up for scum. I'm always joking so you never know when I'm serious. I role claim mafia as a joke D1 but I'm not actually mafia. I just joke around. Then you claimed and there was no way I was going to lynch our vig. Not worth the risk. I immediately unvoted too.

My thoughts on yesterday was this also. IC role claimed as Bubblegum Half human half gum. I don't think the race/make-up of the person was given. I'm pretty sure LN says Princess Bubblegum, Mayor. Something simple. I'm surprised that didn't catch anyone else's eyes.

As of right now, I don't remember being told I was guarded which is odd. Greed seemed a bit of a complex role. Not sure if it's too much or what. No one even asked him to role-claim. I'm semi-suspicious of him. But LN did say. I just hope that it isn't a joint effort and there are secret votes or something like that like Hatland Mafia had. But I don't think it's enough to warrant a vote yet.

Kerensky, Gregness didn't say Vanilla. He didn't reveal what he can do. I just know Tree Trunks is the most kindest and annoying elephant ever. At least I don't think so. And Gregness even suspects scum vibes too. But like he said, you're pretty much confirmed. You're just shady like the night post said. :P
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Unread 12-16-2011, 06:43 PM   #228
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As of right now, I don't remember being told I was guarded which is odd.
Eh? Nobody said they were guarding you.
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Unread 12-16-2011, 07:17 PM   #229
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Eh? Nobody said they were guarding you.
In other games. I don't think anyone I guarded was told that they were being guarded by me when I was Storm. I didn't mean this game.
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Unread 12-16-2011, 08:59 PM   #230
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