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MSperoni · 04-29-2015, 07:12 PM

The fact Mauve mentioned Zhang Liao out of all the other Wei people makes me so freakin' happy you don't even know.

Zhang Liao is the shizzle. One of the best officers in the Three Kingdoms Period, and Wei's top tier (though Zhang He was also really freakin' good).

You can tell who the simple DW fans are because they'd mention Xiahou Dun. BUT THEY DONT KNOW SHIT.

Zhang Liao!!!!

Mauve mentioning Zhang Liao REALLY HELPS in her return to rulership.

Solid Snake · 04-29-2015, 07:16 PM

What's so bad about liking Xiahou Dun?!?

MSperoni · 04-29-2015, 07:20 PM

Nothing is bad about liking Xiahou Dun but he didn't really do all that much relative to his Dynasty Warriors hype.

He's kind of a relatively unknown figure though, so I think the reason he's popular in the context of DW is because people can project onto him. He's sorta like Zhao Yun in that regard.

Zhang Liao's stand at the battle of Xiaoyao Ford is like... legendary. (they call it "He Fei" in the games).

Like, I'm pretty sure Wei could've been okay without Xiahou Dun, but not without Zhang Liao, Cao Ren, Zhang He, Yue Jin, etc.

I'm trying to think of an instance where Xiahou Dun did anything particularly major but the only two things I can think of is a duel with Guan Yu and the time he lead his troops into an ambush by Liu Bei (Zhuge Liang in the novel) at the Battle of Bowang.

He was very close with Cao Cao though. If Cao Cao saw something amazing in him he probably was amazing.

Cao Cao is god-tier when it comes to figures in the RTK period.

Cao Cao > everyone else. The End.

tacticslion · 04-29-2015, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tacticslion

(Oh, hey, Snake: thought of you. Hope you like it. {It's a YouTube link, but a video in the middle of this post would be weird. I'll probably re-post it later, and more "properly" after someone else posts.})

There you go, Snake. I said I would.

Solid Snake · 04-29-2015, 07:40 PM

Tactics.
Tactics.

...That along with Walk the Moon's 'Avalanche' are now my Anthem Songs of 2015.

EDIT:

You didn't link this guy's best work, though:

mauve · 04-29-2015, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

What's so bad about liking Xiahou Dun?!?

Fun fact: Xiahou Dun ate his own eyeball in the middle of a battlefield when it was shot out by an arrow. That's pretty hardcore.

Solid Snake · 04-29-2015, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mauve Mage

Fun fact: Xiahou Dun ate his own eyeball in the middle of a battlefield when it was shot out by an arrow. That's pretty hardcore.

Isn't that reason enough to like him, though?

MSperoni · 04-29-2015, 09:27 PM

I don't have anything against him he's just celebrated more in DW than he deserves, and as a result better people get less attention.

He's very similar to what the novel did with Zhuge Liang and Lu Bu...though the latter was actually a problem for Cao Cao, but fun fact: IT WASN'T LU BU'S ARMY AND IT NEVER WAS (it was Zhang Miao's army).

A reverse of this would be Cao Zhen. Due to the novel's emphasis on the Shu vs Wei story, they made it seem Shu was more of a threat than it was. They put Sima Yi to face Zhuge Liang, and fabricated their rivalry. As a result, Cao Zhen, who was really really good IRL, got "stupid" in the novel so Sima Yi could replace him as head of that front.

Pretty sure that eyeball thing was a fabrication too.

I don't have a problem with that either, after all, look at Guan Yu. But the historical For Real Zhang Liao is STILL like 10x more amazing and people ought to notice that.

It'd be like if everyone said Tebow was a better QB than Brady because he sold more jerseys for a couple of years.

tacticslion · 04-29-2015, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

Tactics.
Tactics.

...That along with Walk the Moon's 'Avalanche' are now my Anthem Songs of 2015.

EDIT:

You didn't link this guy's best work, though:
<snip for space>

I don't know if "now" means I helped, or you already had 'em. Either way, glad you enjoy the music!

EDIT: also, I love Walk the Moon's Shut Up and Dance.
(Do... do you italicize song titles? Band titles? What's the "proper" approach, here?)

EDIT 2: There... there's an entire wikia dedicated to the ghost music video. o.O

RobinStarwing · 04-29-2015, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

I've also unilaterally decided that Terex is Shu and Mauve Mage is Wei

What am I? A Gyros w/ Tomatoes, Onions topped with Tzatziki on a warm Pita?

You even hurt the feelings of Princess and Princess is a sensitive tank. Her feelings easily get hurt.

04-29-2015, 07:12 PM	#251
MSperoni Artist and Writer of Comics Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,666	The fact Mauve mentioned Zhang Liao out of all the other Wei people makes me so freakin' happy you don't even know. Zhang Liao is the shizzle. One of the best officers in the Three Kingdoms Period, and Wei's top tier (though Zhang He was also really freakin' good). You can tell who the simple DW fans are because they'd mention Xiahou Dun. BUT THEY DONT KNOW SHIT. Zhang Liao!!!! Mauve mentioning Zhang Liao REALLY HELPS in her return to rulership. __________________ I do commissions! So Email me if you'd like anything and we'll work out the details! matts_1104@yahoo.com Follow me on Twitter for Dreadful news and random info! (though mostly it's just me babbling about nerd-stuff) http://twitter.com/#!/mSperoni Check out my Deviant Art page if you'd like to see other pictures I've made! http://exmile.deviantart.com/ Follow The Dreadful on Facebook!

04-29-2015, 07:16 PM	#252
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	DID YOU LIE TO ME, DYNASTY WARRIORS?!? What's so bad about liking Xiahou Dun?!? __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text.

04-29-2015, 07:20 PM	#253
MSperoni Artist and Writer of Comics Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,666	Nothing is bad about liking Xiahou Dun but he didn't really do all that much relative to his Dynasty Warriors hype. He's kind of a relatively unknown figure though, so I think the reason he's popular in the context of DW is because people can project onto him. He's sorta like Zhao Yun in that regard. Zhang Liao's stand at the battle of Xiaoyao Ford is like... legendary. (they call it "He Fei" in the games). Like, I'm pretty sure Wei could've been okay without Xiahou Dun, but not without Zhang Liao, Cao Ren, Zhang He, Yue Jin, etc. I'm trying to think of an instance where Xiahou Dun did anything particularly major but the only two things I can think of is a duel with Guan Yu and the time he lead his troops into an ambush by Liu Bei (Zhuge Liang in the novel) at the Battle of Bowang. He was very close with Cao Cao though. If Cao Cao saw something amazing in him he probably was amazing. Cao Cao is god-tier when it comes to figures in the RTK period. Cao Cao > everyone else. The End. __________________ I do commissions! So Email me if you'd like anything and we'll work out the details! matts_1104@yahoo.com Follow me on Twitter for Dreadful news and random info! (though mostly it's just me babbling about nerd-stuff) http://twitter.com/#!/mSperoni Check out my Deviant Art page if you'd like to see other pictures I've made! http://exmile.deviantart.com/ Follow The Dreadful on Facebook! Last edited by MSperoni; 04-29-2015 at 07:27 PM.

04-29-2015, 07:40 PM	#255
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	Not just the characters; the lyrics are also so appropriate Tactics. *Tactics.* ...That along with Walk the Moon's 'Avalanche' are now my Anthem Songs of 2015. EDIT: You didn't link this guy's best work, though: __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text. Last edited by Solid Snake; 04-29-2015 at 07:57 PM.

04-29-2015, 09:27 PM	#258
MSperoni Artist and Writer of Comics Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,666	I don't have anything against him he's just celebrated more in DW than he deserves, and as a result better people get less attention. He's very similar to what the novel did with Zhuge Liang and Lu Bu...though the latter was actually a problem for Cao Cao, but fun fact: IT WASN'T LU BU'S ARMY AND IT NEVER WAS (it was Zhang Miao's army). A reverse of this would be Cao Zhen. Due to the novel's emphasis on the Shu vs Wei story, they made it seem Shu was more of a threat than it was. They put Sima Yi to face Zhuge Liang, and fabricated their rivalry. As a result, Cao Zhen, who was really really good IRL, got "stupid" in the novel so Sima Yi could replace him as head of that front. Pretty sure that eyeball thing was a fabrication too. I don't have a problem with that either, after all, look at Guan Yu. But the historical For Real Zhang Liao is STILL like 10x more amazing and people ought to notice that. It'd be like if everyone said Tebow was a better QB than Brady because he sold more jerseys for a couple of years. __________________ I do commissions! So Email me if you'd like anything and we'll work out the details! matts_1104@yahoo.com Follow me on Twitter for Dreadful news and random info! (though mostly it's just me babbling about nerd-stuff) http://twitter.com/#!/mSperoni Check out my Deviant Art page if you'd like to see other pictures I've made! http://exmile.deviantart.com/ Follow The Dreadful on Facebook! Last edited by MSperoni; 04-29-2015 at 09:44 PM.