The all-inclusive "Republicans hate everything America stands for" thread

[Magus]

This Santorum/Catholic anti-birth control/Obamacare thing is the dumbest controversy to come out of this shit recently (in a myriad shitstorm of shit). It's so astoundingly stupid how these people cannot reason at all.

Basically, the government is making it so that if you own a university, business, hospital, etc. you have to provide your employees with health insurance that includes birth control. So of course Catholics are complaining that they will have to pay for birth control (in like, the most roundabout way possible does this mean that, but anyway), in that they are providing their employees with insurance that includes birth control. Keep in mind that nothing says that they themselves have to use birth control, just that their employees have to have the option of having it covered on their insurance. So already it is stupid.

BUT churches are already exempt, and that's all that should be exempt. Just because your religion disagrees with birth control doesn't mean we have to kowtow to your demands when you open a business, university, or hospital. THOSE ARE NOT RELIGIOUS THINGS. YOU JUST MAKE TRY TO MAKE THEM THAT WAY. If you don't want the government overseeing how you run your business, DON'T RUN A BUSINESS.

It's so simple to understand why this argument is idiotic. Let's say I wanted to drive a car. To drive a car, you have to buy car insurance. Well, let's say my religion prohibits me from buying car insurance. Should the government let me drive a car without insurance just because, or should I just not drive a car? Or let's say my religion prohibits me from paying taxes. Should I be able to have a job without paying taxes? Or should I just not be able to have a job?

This is essentially the same argument being made. If you don't want to buy your employees health insurance because it has to include birth control, DON'T HAVE EMPLOYEES. DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS. DON'T HAVE A RELIGIOUS UNIVERSITY. DON'T HAVE A RELIGIOUS HOSPITAL (not even sure what the hell that even IS since none of the treatments are religious treatments or whatever but anyway).

Nowhere in the bible does it say you, as a Catholic, have to own a business. So if you're not willing to provide the things the government says you have to provide to your employees, then don't bother having one. Religious freedom doesn't give you carte blanche to avoid all government regulation. If it did, I wouldn't be paying any taxes because taxes are against my religion of Not-Paying-Taxism.

Religious freedom means churches are exempt, because they are non-profits and houses of worship. It doesn't mean your business is exempt because you happen to be Catholic, or your university is exempt because it is a Catholic university. THOSE ARE NOT CHURCHES.

[Fifthfiend]

Like last I checked nobody's requiring Catholic business owners to take birth control.

Someone should ask them what they think of paying their employees money, which those employees then in all likelihood spend on things their employers disapprove of??????? Whoa I know guys, it happens.

[Marc v4.0]

Originally Posted by Magus

Just because your religion disagrees with _______ doesn't mean we have to kowtow to your demands

You will find that you are incorrect, as the Book of the Self-Righteous contridicts this in chapter 3 verse 23.

It is one of the not-often talked about books of the Bible. In fact, if you had ever had chance to read a little of it, you would think that Jesus was actually against the Self-Righteous. Our mistake!

[Fifthfiend]

[RobinStarwing]

Originally Posted by shiney

Isn't it starting to seem like a calculated plot to destroy the party from within? It may be that they realize the fringe becoming the mainstream is damaging to the country in the long-term, and so to shed and marginalize them, they have to promote them to the utmost of their ability.

Well, if that's the case. Rick Santorum is really helping out!

[Magus]

So Obama solved this birth control thing in either the dumbest or the smartest way possible (not sure yet): signed an executive order that insurance companies that provide insurance policies to Catholic businesses, hospitals, universities, etc. MUST provide birth control in whatever plans made available to these institutions, FREE OF CHARGE. So this way they do not have to pay for birth control.

Presumably the insurance companies will just raise the price of the rest of the policy to make up the difference or something, or just eat the cost since they will still make money hand over fist on the rest of the policy.

Of course now even though these Catholic owners are no longer going to, technically, be forced to pay for birth control they are still complaining because like, this totally ruined even the incredibly dumb argument they were making, so now they have no leg to stand on at all.

EDIT

Originally Posted by RobinStarwing

Well, if that's the case. Rick Santorum is really helping out!

I was going to say that Rick Santorm was the worst thing that ever happened to Pennsylvania but, you know, Tom Corbett, so...

But anyway I think halfway through his incredibly dumb statement something in the back of his head went off where he was like "Wow this is an incredibly dumb argument I am making, since soldiers already go out of their way to save each other in combat, am I really implying that they will somehow be trying harder to save female soldiers than they already are to save their male soldier friends, am I really being this retarded" and so he kind of meandered off into "well of course this already happens in combat but like, it might be worse. Or better, I mean. since that is a good thing, that they are protecting each other. And uh, hey, did you notice I'm copying Romney's thing of not wearing a tie now? Why did I drop my sweater vest gimmick, anyway? My neck is nowhere near as flattering as Romney's, maybe I should button this shit back up."

[Jagos]

Fox has decided to drop Judge Napolitano's show. It's the only show that you'll see things like this:



In other words, the only person that has decided to question mainstream politics as an actual Libertarian conservative seems to have been called to reign in his "rhetoric" and fall in line with the new Conservative agenda.

[shiney]

RINO

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Jagos

Fox has decided to drop Judge Napolitano's show. It's the only show that you'll see things like this:


In other words, the only person that has decided to question mainstream politics as an actual Libertarian conservative seems to have been called to reign in his "rhetoric" and fall in line with the new Conservative agenda.

Oh god why did I even look at the comments.
They're talking about how this is a sign of a liberal takeover of Fox.

[Loyal]

Originally Posted by "Half Assed" Karesh

Oh god why did I even look at the comments.
They're talking about how this is a sign of a liberal takeover of Fox.

LET THE FLOODGATES OPEN!

My husband and I are getting tired of watching Fox news. They are getting to Liberal for us.Actually it is called "whishy-washy. Bill ORielly is just as bad. Sean Hannety is right on and I hope he stays that way.We can;t even watch Bill any more, We try, but just can't seem to stay with him. The Constitution Party sounds good. I just wrote to Boehner gave him a few choice words. I am so tired of this weak Goverment and Really some of the Republicans are trying asd I am sure that there is a few Democrates that are good but Boehner and Dirty Harry keep getting in the way. Oh man I hope we elect a hard nose,American who wants to keep this Country Great. God Bless America.

Fox has eliminated all the truth tellers. I miss Glenn Beck. He was so informative and on target. Fox covers for Obama and does not tell you that he is an illegal alien born in Mombasa, Kenya, lied about attending Columbia Univ as he was attending instead Patrice Lumumba Univ in Moscow, Russia where the Russian Academy of Sciences boasted in 1992 that they had trained Obama to be a communist and atheist. Obama lies and Fox covering for him are making it easier to destroy US dollar and military. O'Reilly should change his title to "The O'Reilly Non-Factor" as he said without any proof that Obama was born in Hawaii. Bill has never bothered to ask the Kenyan Parliament or the Kenyan Ambassador as he is clueless.

Obviously FOX has caved to liberal press and the partisan politics of the WH and DOJ. Since Glenn Beck left, the network has decidedly become like the rest of the media, ABC,NBC, MSNBC, CNN, AND CBS. I left with Glenn!