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Kim · 03-03-2010, 05:51 PM

The logic system needs improvement, but I like it far more than the Psyche Locks. Maybe if they didn't throw bits away after you used them?

Reason I like it is that Edgey is leagues better than Phoenix in terms of well done protagonist, since Phoenix only had a personality to the extent of being the straight man compared to everyone else's stupid, being the stupid compared to the rest of the lawyers, and talking a whole lot about JUSTICE and the TRUTH. Edgey has actual interests, and a more likable personality, and the game really lets you see how he's grown as a character. Plus, Edgey calling out someone for not being a "true Steel Samurai fan" automatically maes him better than Feeny.

I also found many of the characters loads more likable this game. I don't think I've ever liked Franziska as much as I do this game, I wasn't nearly so irritated at having to deal with Oldbag and Larry, and the new characters specific to this game, like Detective Badd and Kay Faraday, are just pure awesome.

Cutting out the courtroom also let them balance the gameplay elements far better, meaning you don't spend too much time doing one thing before getting to do another. Additionally, they cut out the bullshit with trying to figure out what area to explore next and only being able to access certain areas from other areas and blargh. I thought mostly restricting you to a single room was a definite improvement over the previous games.

In short: Edgey Rules; Feeny Drools

Solid Snake · 03-03-2010, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NonCon

Reason I like it is that Edgey is leagues better than Phoenix in terms of well done protagonist, since Phoenix only had a personality to the extent of being the straight man compared to everyone else's stupid, being the stupid compared to the rest of the lawyers, and talking a whole lot about JUSTICE and the TRUTH. Edgey has actual interests, and a more likable personality, and the game really lets you see how he's grown as a character.

I love both characters, so I'll have to at least disagree regarding Phoenix "not having a personality." His wit and his dry sense of humor distinguished him well from Edgeworth and nearly everyone else in the original trilogy's cast, and I wouldn't call him merely a 'straight man.' Edgeworth's development may be more pronounced and his characterization may be more nuanced, but damn, I still miss myself some Wright.

I will agree that Oldbag and Larry were less annoying this time around -- I'd argue their presence was simply unnecessary. They weren't as much a nuisance, but the inundation of cameos in general in later cases took away from the suspense. In retrospect, I think the development team overcompensated after being criticized for the lack of cameos in Apollo Justice. Hopefully, in future titles they'll find a better balance between the two extremes.

Have to disagree with Franziska. As I've already written, I do feel her personality in this storyline has set her back from the ending of T+T in terms of character progression, though I do appreciate the fact that she finally showed a tad more restraint by the end of Case Five.

...And as for cutting out the courtroom: I'm an aspiring attorney. Of course I'm going to miss the courtroom. =)

Kim · 03-03-2010, 07:49 PM

Regardless, I think we can all agree that in the next game we need to be playing as the Judge.

Solid Snake · 03-03-2010, 07:59 PM

In regards to the sequel, it's interesting how at least five major possibilities are all strongly hinted at by Capcom in this game's epilogue (well, four possibilities are hinted it, but the Apollo Justice sequel is the default choice.)

1: The next game could, of course, just continue from Edgeworth's perspective. His ending did seem to mention a possible return to the courtroom, but he's investigating now as well, so who knows if it'd be a second Ace Attorney Investigations title or a new Courtroom Prosecutor title. It's noteworthy that Ema mentions wanting to help Edgey as a forensic scientist, so if the next title takes place considerably later in the timeline (like after AJ, but still starring an older Edgeworth) Ema might come back to play assistant.

2: Of course, there's the standard option of the Apollo Justice sequel.

3: Franziska mentions working with Lang on new Interpol cases and subduing the remnants of the smuggling ring. They could star in their own game and take down the baddies.

4: Kay mentions recruiting a new trio of "young beauties" for the brand-new Yatagarasu. I wonder who this would be. Given that the creators originally wanted the first Ace Attorney Investigations title to star Ema, I wouldn't be shocked if Ema was involved. Kay, Ema and...? Trucy Wright? A teenage Pearls?

5: And of course, Larry mentions missing the "man in the blue suit" (why the hell wouldn't he just call him Phoenix) and there's always the possibility, however slim, that we may eventually get a new story starring our favorite attorney. Why else include the random shoutout in Larry's farewell speech? Just to toy with me? =(

So yeah, I'm curious to see exactly what direction the developers choose to pursue next.

03-03-2010, 05:51 PM	#21
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	All further objections are denied. The logic system needs improvement, but I like it far more than the Psyche Locks. Maybe if they didn't throw bits away after you used them? Reason I like it is that Edgey is leagues better than Phoenix in terms of well done protagonist, since Phoenix only had a personality to the extent of being the straight man compared to everyone else's stupid, being the stupid compared to the rest of the lawyers, and talking a whole lot about JUSTICE and the TRUTH. Edgey has actual interests, and a more likable personality, and the game really lets you see how he's grown as a character. Plus, Edgey calling out someone for not being a "true Steel Samurai fan" automatically maes him better than Feeny. I also found many of the characters loads more likable this game. I don't think I've ever liked Franziska as much as I do this game, I wasn't nearly so irritated at having to deal with Oldbag and Larry, and the new characters specific to this game, like Detective Badd and Kay Faraday, are just pure awesome. Cutting out the courtroom also let them balance the gameplay elements far better, meaning you don't spend too much time doing one thing before getting to do another. Additionally, they cut out the bullshit with trying to figure out what area to explore next and only being able to access certain areas from other areas and blargh. I thought mostly restricting you to a single room was a definite improvement over the previous games. In short: Edgey Rules; Feeny Drools __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy

03-03-2010, 07:49 PM	#23
Kim adorable Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 12,950	Judge Judgington: Ace Judge Regardless, I think we can all agree that in the next game we need to be playing as the Judge. __________________ this post is about how to successfully H the Kimmy

03-03-2010, 07:59 PM	#24
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	In regards to the sequel, it's interesting how at least five major possibilities are all strongly hinted at by Capcom in this game's epilogue (well, four possibilities are hinted it, but the Apollo Justice sequel is the default choice.) 1: The next game could, of course, just continue from Edgeworth's perspective. His ending did seem to mention a possible return to the courtroom, but he's investigating now as well, so who knows if it'd be a second Ace Attorney Investigations title or a new Courtroom Prosecutor title. It's noteworthy that Ema mentions wanting to help Edgey as a forensic scientist, so if the next title takes place considerably later in the timeline (like after AJ, but still starring an older Edgeworth) Ema might come back to play assistant. 2: Of course, there's the standard option of the Apollo Justice sequel. 3: Franziska mentions working with Lang on new Interpol cases and subduing the remnants of the smuggling ring. They could star in their own game and take down the baddies. 4: Kay mentions recruiting a new trio of "young beauties" for the brand-new Yatagarasu. I wonder who this would be. Given that the creators originally wanted the first Ace Attorney Investigations title to star Ema, I wouldn't be shocked if Ema was involved. Kay, Ema and...? Trucy Wright? A teenage Pearls? 5: And of course, Larry mentions missing the "man in the blue suit" (why the hell wouldn't he just call him Phoenix) and there's always the possibility, however slim, that we may eventually get a new story starring our favorite attorney. Why else include the random shoutout in Larry's farewell speech? Just to toy with me? =( So yeah, I'm curious to see exactly what direction the developers choose to pursue next. __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text.