Racism in the classroom

[Funka Genocide]

Going to be honest here, she's probably just old. My grandmother was an ESL teacher and she'd always point out when you weren't speaking either Spanish or English correctly. It sounds like her main intent is to engender proper speaking habits in people who speak English as a secondary language. You guys sound like a bunch of reactionary protesters.

It was perhaps a culturally insensitive remark but that doesn't define someone as "a racist."

I'd suggest some cultural sensitivity training.

There is a proper way to speak English, someone who has taught ESL for 2 decades knows this and will likely try to ingrain it in her students. Again, an insensitive way to put it that likely requires some training and/or disciplinary action, but not enough to label someone a hate monger.

I mean shit, she's from fucking Mexico. I'm sure she knows what its like to be discriminated against. Try giving people the benefit of the doubt.

And getting on people for being late sometimes is total bullshit. Its all ego, I'm paying to learn blah blah blah. You're the student, they're the teacher. Its not your fucking job to keep track of her punctuality, if you don't like it then drop the fucking class. If she shows up and starts calling all indian or arabic people in her class a bunch of racial epithets then by all means, grab the torches and pitchforks, other than that Just file the appropriate paperwork if you feel so wronged and don't worry about it.

Edit: and "Da-veed" is how you pronounce David in Spanish too.

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Funka Genocide

Going to be honest here, she's probably just old. My grandmother was an ESL teacher and she'd always point out when you weren't speaking either Spanish or English correctly. It sounds like her main intent is to engender proper speaking habits in people who speak English as a secondary language. You guys sound like a bunch of reactionary protesters.

It was perhaps a culturally insensitive remark but that doesn't define someone as "a racist."

I'd suggest some cultural sensitivity training.

There is a proper way to speak English, someone who has taught ESL for 2 decades knows this and will likely try to ingrain it in her students. Again, an insensitive way to put it that likely requires some training and/or disciplinary action, but not enough to label someone a hate monger.

I mean shit, she's from fucking Mexico. I'm sure she knows what its like to be discriminated against. Try giving people the benefit of the doubt.

And getting on people for being late sometimes is total bullshit. Its all ego, I'm paying to learn blah blah blah. You're the student, they're the teacher. Its not your fucking job to keep track of her punctuality, if you don't like it then drop the fucking class. If she shows up and starts calling all indian or arabic people in her class a bunch of racial epithets then by all means, grab the torches and pitchforks, other than that Just file the appropriate paperwork if you feel so wronged and don't worry about it.

Edit: and "Da-veed" is how you pronounce David in Spanish too.

Pffffhahahahaha...

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Funka Genocide

And getting on people for being late sometimes is total bullshit. Its all ego, I'm paying to learn blah blah blah. You're the student, they're the teacher. Its not your fucking job to keep track of her punctuality, if you don't like it then drop the fucking class. If she shows up and starts calling all indian or arabic people in her class a bunch of racial epithets then by all means, grab the torches and pitchforks, other than that Just file the appropriate paperwork if you feel so wronged and don't worry about it.

To be honest if my teacher's going to be failing me from the class for being late you bet your ass I'm going to expect them to be showing up on time. At that, if I show up late for work consistently? I get fired because I'm an irresponsible worker. It's no different for teachers.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

Originally Posted by Funka Genocide

There is a proper way to speak English, someone who has taught ESL for 2 decades knows this and will likely try to ingrain it in her students.

The many different accents from places that speak "English" around the world would suggest otherwise. What exactly is the proper way to speak English?
Like my pronunciation would probably be "not proper" according to American ears but I'm from an English speaking country.

And getting on people for being late sometimes is total bullshit. Its all ego, I'm paying to learn blah blah blah. You're the student, they're the teacher. Its not your fucking job to keep track of her punctuality, if you don't like it then drop the fucking class. If she shows up and starts calling all indian or arabic people in her class a bunch of racial epithets then by all means, grab the torches and pitchforks, other than that Just file the appropriate paperwork if you feel so wronged and don't worry about it.

You are paying for a service, they are not providing that service, it is within your rights to complain. You can't just drop the course, you've already paid. If I go to Mcdonalds and order a combo and they don't give me chips (equivalent to teaching for 30 minutes out of say an hour) and I complain and they say "Well you could have gone to KFC"- that's bullshit.
And you can get fired at my uni for being consistently late, for good reason. She is not doing her job, at the very least her employers should know that she is not teaching the full amount of time they are paying her for. It's the same as every other job in the world. Except corporate fatcat.

Also she may be old but doesn't excuse her behaviour. And you suggest cultural sensitivity training- which is probably what will happen as the outcome of complaining and wouldn't come about if you didn't complain.
I don't think they are clamouring to get her lynched as much as make her and the department aware of a serious problem and to fix it, ie by cultural sensitivity training if that is appropriate.
You are like "Just file the appropriate paperwork" isn't that what they are doing?

Originally Posted by Nikose Tyris

My tests grades moved from being borderline passing (60%) to 80%.
My first, already posted test, changed, and my second test was posted at a flat, exactly 80%.

My second test, the midterm, that I did not complete any of the 4 essay questions worth more than 30%.

I am withdrawing from the course.

I don't understand this bit. She increased your grades because you were complaining?

[Nikose Tyris]

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

I don't understand this bit. She increased your grades because you were complaining?

I believe that may be exactly what has happened. I filed a complaint, and suddenly I am an 80% student. My average is 80%, and all my marks are 80%. [This is also the class that gave me a 0 on an assignment earlier in this semester, which has magically vanished entirely.]

[natowarhead]

Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

I don't understand this bit. She increased your grades because you were complaining?

I've had professors try to pull this trick on me as well. I've talked to four or five professors about their manner of teaching, albiet nothing as big as this.
Most of them, rather than address the issues, tried to placate me by offering higher grades for past assignments or "extra credit".
It's even happened when the problem had no correlation to grades.

I hate to think how many students actually accept such offers.

[TDK]

Originally Posted by Funka Genocide

Its not your fucking job to keep track of her punctuality

But it is her job to

y'know

do her job.

Presumably.

[Kim]

Look forward to Funka's future posts where you aren't allowed to complain about cold food at McDonald's.

[TDK]

but what if I got a smoothie

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by Funka Genocide

Going to be honest here, she's probably just old. My grandmother was an ESL teacher and she'd always point out when you weren't speaking either Spanish or English correctly. It sounds like her main intent is to engender proper speaking habits in people who speak English as a secondary language. You guys sound like a bunch of reactionary protesters.

It was perhaps a culturally insensitive remark but that doesn't define someone as "a racist."

I'd suggest some cultural sensitivity training.

There is a proper way to speak English, someone who has taught ESL for 2 decades knows this and will likely try to ingrain it in her students. Again, an insensitive way to put it that likely requires some training and/or disciplinary action, but not enough to label someone a hate monger.

I mean shit, she's from fucking Mexico. I'm sure she knows what its like to be discriminated against. Try giving people the benefit of the doubt.

And getting on people for being late sometimes is total bullshit. Its all ego, I'm paying to learn blah blah blah. You're the student, they're the teacher. Its not your fucking job to keep track of her punctuality, if you don't like it then drop the fucking class. If she shows up and starts calling all indian or arabic people in her class a bunch of racial epithets then by all means, grab the torches and pitchforks, other than that Just file the appropriate paperwork if you feel so wronged and don't worry about it.

Edit: and "Da-veed" is how you pronounce David in Spanish too.

thats our funka