Nintendo to announce HD console at E3

[phil_]

You know, I think this is the first time since I was four years old that I've ever had any doubt as to whether I'll buy in to a new console generation. I'm scared.

[Aerozord]

I actually wrote up something on how a new console generation may in fact hurt gaming industry by demanding more from developers who are already having trouble affording the risk of innovative games

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by NonCon

Additionally, I was satisfied with my DS. Plenty were. Nintendo still announced the 3DS. I'll still be getting a 3DS later this year. I was satisfied with the PS2. Plenty were. Sony still made the PS3.

Yeah, and the wii thing will be the same. We'll get a new Nintendo console, and people will buy it blah blah blah (including me, 'cause zelda games).

However, Sony and Microsoft probably won't release new consoles anytime soon, because in so much as years have passed, the hardware upgrades would be barely noticeable as they'd transfer over to graphical upgrades. The consumer wouldn't want to buy them, in such a case, because there'd be very little difference between them and what they have now, and, knowing this, Sony and Microsoft wouldn't want to make them because they gain nothing from doing so unless they need to compete with the other--selling their consoles at a loss and all.

Basically, I doubt we'll see a whole new generation of consoles within the next couple of years, some kind of gaming innovation that requires new consoles aside, just a new Nintendo console to catch them up to where everyone else is, graphically (and perhaps to update their motion gaming to Move/Kinect levels of sensitivity).

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Krylo

Basically, I doubt we'll see a whole new generation of consoles within the next couple of years, some kind of gaming innovation that requires new consoles aside, just a new Nintendo console to catch them up to where everyone else is, graphically (and perhaps to update their motion gaming to Move/Kinect levels of sensitivity).

Yeah, this is basically what I'm expecting. WiiHD with improved motion detection, and ideally a controller option that... well, isn't a Wiimote.

And yeah, after I made my earlier post, I later realized that whatever plans they might have originally had for the next console date were probably able to be pushed back a few years because of Move/Kinect, which is actually kinda nice, and probably an argument in favor of the route Sony and Microsoft went, though they might not have gone that route had Nintendo not invested in motion control the way they did in the first place.

[Kyanbu The Legend]

Originally Posted by NonCon

Yeah, this is basically what I'm expecting. WiiHD with improved motion detection, and ideally a controller option that... well, isn't a Wiimote.

And yeah, after I made my earlier post, I later realized that whatever plans they might have originally had for the next console date were probably able to be pushed back a few years because of Move/Kinect, which is actually kinda nice, and probably an argument in favor of the route Sony and Microsoft went, though they might not have gone that route had Nintendo not invested in motion control the way they did in the first place.

You could say that Nintendo once again created a new trend.

[Aerozord]

for the record I dont find move or wiimote to be comparable to kinect. Kinect has been shown to have potential that frankly makes both alternatives look shameful. Of course this is all pointless since all developers are doing is copying Wii games. Point is it works in very different way, its like comparing analog stick to a d-pad, yea they both make a character move but thats about the only simularity

[rpgdemon]

Yeah, what's funny is that I thought the Kinect would be terrible, but bought one anyway to play around with, and to play around with the SDK for it.

I'm still not convinced that it'll be a commercial success, but it will probably have some cool stuff eventually.

[Kim]

Rumor has it the system is currently being called Project Cafe, the controler has a touch screen and standard buttons, and that for some reason the controller also has a camera or something.

(I'm secretly hoping the controller will turn out to be a 3DS)

[Kyanbu The Legend]

It most likely is.

[ZAKtheGeek]

People saying some weird things in here. Exactly like a Wii but in HD? Who would do that? Why would anyone do that? That's just the ridiculous wish of people who "love what Nintendo's doing" but "can't stand SD." Is it supposed to be an add-on? How would they do that? Do Wiis have expansion ports?

Originally Posted by Aerozord

actually, this might be more literal. One way they could pull this off is making it an actual HD Wii, as in, its the same console just with more power. Allowing a transitional period as you can still play new games on current system, it just lacks all the bells and whistles.

What does this even mean? How is it the "current system" if you have to buy a new system? How does it lack bells and whistles if it plays new games? Or, perhaps alternatively, are the games really all that new if there are bells and whistles lacking? Is this supposed to be some kind of half-generation? That just sounds like a giant waste of time and money on everybody's part...

Sorry, I just... it makes no sense to me at all.

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

The most important thing to keep in mind is: People don't want/like new consoles if the old ones do well enough, and companies don't want new consoles unless they're Nintendo and make money on each one sold.

Considering that no one is going, "AW MAN MY PS3 AND/OR 360 IS SO OUTDATED, I NEED A NEW ONE I WANT TO SPEND $400", and the companies aren't going, "KNOW WHAT'D BE AWESOME? MAKING IT SO THAT WE HAVE TO GET OUR MARKET SHARE ALL OVER AGAIN BY RELEASING SOMETHING THAT WE LOSE MONEY ON EACH UNIT SOLD THAT NO ONE WANTS", I don't think there'll be a new generation of consoles for a fair bit.

Until there's something shiny and special about the new generation that's actually a legitimate advantage, people won't want it.

People don't think consoles are outdated? Maybe they should. Or, maybe they will, once new ones start coming out and showing off. I dunno, I don't really know a lot about graffix. At the same time, considering the kind of stuff Nintendo's been pulling, it seems there's a good chance there really will be some kind of unique hook or gimmick to grab attention, not just increased horsepower.

Originally Posted by rpgdemon

I'm still not convinced that it'll be a commercial success, but it will probably have some cool stuff eventually.

This is backwards. It's undeniably a huge commercial success... the question is whether anything cool will actually be made for it. Unless you're not talking about Kinect?


Now, what are we lookin' at here? New Nintendo console? I guess it would probably have BC. I heard that it would, and it also makes sense. They had a lot of success with the Wii. They will probably want people to upgrade, as well as keep pushing their old library (cross-generation evergreen!?), although of course they always want to expand their market as well. That means it'll have motion control. I mean, was there any doubt? They bring this in, everyone jumps on board, and it's somehow plausible that they should abandon it? Yet another ridiculous dream. I wonder if it'll have some kind of vitality sensor tech. What ever happened to that... I just hope they improve their online system. Which really doesn't even require them putting out a new console, but...

Originally Posted by Kyanbu the Legend

It's and entirely new system with the exact same (probably better but most likely just the same) graphics as 360/PS3.

Why not better? I'm just wondering what your reasoning or your source is. Actually, I'm not even sure what you're saying... I don't see how something can be both "probably" and not included in "most likely."