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Unread 12-05-2011, 07:46 PM   #31
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Christainity stole it pretty much wholesale from plato though.
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Unread 12-05-2011, 07:53 PM   #32
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Christainity stole it pretty much wholesale from plato though.
you cant really steal a philosophy. If its exactly the same it just means they thought it was a good value system and adopted it.
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Unread 12-05-2011, 08:01 PM   #33
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Warring kingdoms+national trauma-pantheon=Jews
Jews+Plato+Egypt=Christanity.
Christanity+Zoroastrainism+Judaism+Desert+Sweet drugs=Islam
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Unread 12-05-2011, 08:27 PM   #34
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Warring kingdoms+national trauma-pantheon=Jews
Jews+Plato+Egypt=Christanity.
Christanity+Zoroastrainism+Judaism+Desert+Sweet drugs=Islam
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none of that is "theft" thats just natural evolution of an ideology. You might as well say we stole calculus from Newton. Plato developed his philosophies specifically so they could be used by others.

[edit] beside, we don't believe in such values because of Plato, we do because of Christianity. Specifically the Roman Empires conversion to it, and said empires practice of destroying all cultural identity save the its own. Followed by the religion enduring past the point of the empires collapse.
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The bible wasn't really politically correct by today's standards.
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It wasn't really politically correct by the Middle-Age's standards!
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Eh, I think that would put you at Chaotic Neutral, probably. Like there are clearly goals involved here, possibly political, obviously sexual, not just feeding the planet to demons from the netherworld.
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none of that is "theft" thats just natural evolution of an ideology. You might as well say we stole calculus from Newton. Plato developed his philosophies specifically so they could be used by others.

[edit] beside, we don't believe in such values because of Plato, we do because of Christianity. Specifically the Roman Empires conversion to it, and said empires practice of destroying all cultural identity save the its own. Followed by the religion enduring past the point of the empires collapse.
Leibniz was calculus. Newtonian calculus is shitty and you can only use it if you are differentiating with respect to time.
Also claiming cultural continuity to the Roman Empire is a ridiculous stretch. Ask the Syriacs how that is going for them.
Also the extend to which our value system is "christain" is pretty heavily debated and not something you can claim outright.
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