NPF Secret Santa 2012 - Showing the Grinch Whatfor [UNDER WAY!!] - Page 4

Flarecobra · 11-29-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Geminex

How are we gonna handle currency conversion? Just use exchange rates? It'll be a bit awkward for those of us who aren't using dollars, but since the americans seem to be in the majority, I guess us europeans will have to submit.

http://www.xe.com/

Problem solved?

Geminex · 11-29-2012, 01:11 PM

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http://www.xe.com/

Problem solved?

I'm familiar with how exhange rates work. : p

An average of 10 bucks is about 7.70 Euro. Let's call it 8.

The thing is that steam's pricing varies by region, with the EU being more expensive by a good bit. And steam likes its round prices as much as anyone else. So an EU user gifting to an American will be able to buy less, and they'll be constrained by the fact that 8 Euro isn't enough to buy a 10-Euro game, while the same game would've only cost 10 bucks on the US market.

Basically, EU users will be able to gift less, or will have to pay more to gift the same as US users.

I'm not complaining, mind you, this isn't a massive issue, I'm just pointing out that when I asked "should we use exchange rates?", I meant "Hey, the purchasing power parity of various currencies in the steam store isn't proportional to the actualy currency exchange, anyone got an idea how to account for that without too much hassle?".

It did not mean "Durrr, I don't know how to google 'currency exchange', can one of you take care of that for me?"

: p

Flarecobra · 11-29-2012, 01:19 PM

Others might not know them off hand.

Solid Snake · 11-29-2012, 02:09 PM

Regardless of whether this picks up and what form it takes, I'd recommend at least allowing those of us who don't want to give our real addresses the opportunity for a Steam edition of the festivities.

...And like, maybe we can set up so you could join one or the other or both.

I'm definitely in the category right now of being very interested so long as we limit ourselves to digital distribution for the gifts. (That could encompass more than Steam, I suppose, if you could gift things over other services like GOG or iTunes.)

I'll also repeat the recommendation of at least knowing who we're giving our gifts to. Randomize it so no one knows who they'll get gifts from, but ensure the giver is in the know as to where the gift s/he purchases will be going. That way if we create a list of everyone's system requirements and a list of the computer games they already own, we can ensure everyone receives a gift they can actually play.

The net effect is still the same: The receivers of gifts will be just as surprised by the gift they get and who they get the gift from. This would just help us avoid spending our monies inappropriately.

Professor Smarmiarty · 11-29-2012, 07:20 PM

WAIT WAIT WAIT, I'M IN IF I CAN GET GEM. I GOT A SWEET PRESENT FOR HIM.

ALSO I'M IN CHINA AND I CAN'T ACCESS LIKE 90% OF THE WEBSITES I READ. I'M SUCK A DEVIANT.

Bells · 11-29-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Smarmiarty

IM IN CHINA

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Originally Posted by Professor Smarmiarty

I'M SUCK A DEVIANT.

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Geminex · 11-29-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Smarmiarty

WAIT WAIT WAIT, I'M IN IF I CAN GET GEM. I GOT A SWEET PRESENT FOR HIM.

ALSO I'M IN CHINA AND I CAN'T ACCESS LIKE 90% OF THE WEBSITES I READ. I'M SUCK A DEVIANT.

Wait, you're in china? Dude, why didn't you say. Yeah, website filtering is a bit of a bitch there.

ALso also is your present something I would enjoy having?

akaSM · 11-29-2012, 09:49 PM

Yeah, I forgot to mention I'm in FOR Steam stuff, I do't think anyone lives near here >_>

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Originally Posted by Whomper

On the flip side, I do like to spend monies on gifts for people. What do?

I'm people

I can receive gifts

*wink* *nudge*

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 11-30-2012, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Geminex

Wait, you're in china? Dude, why didn't you say. Yeah, website filtering is a bit of a bitch there.

They're obviously not doing a good enough job if they can still access us though.

synkr0nized · 11-30-2012, 03:04 AM

All right, edited the OP. It's just way easier and less hassle to do this as digitally as possible. I have made a list of potential ways for us to gift with just email/Steam login information and no "real life" data.

Then you'd just have to pew pew me you're preferred email and/or Steam info so I can make random pairings. I have no problem with being a go-between if a gift giver wants additional information about their receiver but does not want to reveal who they are ahead of time.

I hadn't posted it, but I had originally been thinking of something like a ten to twenty-five dollar range. If that range is too wide, I'm down with what you all seem to have agreed upon -- about ten bucks US, if I have read the discussion correctly.

It seems reasonable to me that a person who signs up could also list some preferences (e.g. what games they might be interested in on Steam, or for a broader potential the specs of their system and the genres they prefer? And if Steam is not your thing you could mention that you've got a few albums you want to buy or you've always wanted to have Netflix or you've been meaning to get something in the Live! Arcade but haven't had the points for it, etc.) with their email.

edit: Actually thinking of iTunes or similar stores, can you actually purchase an album and gift that rather than just give a gift card? Maybe you think a person would like a band you like, for example, and you want to get him or her some of their music. I prefer to own physical media so I can rip/re-rip at my leisure, so I have never looked into doing something like that.

I'm not perfect and can't create a solution that will make everyone happy**, but hopefully this is decent enough to spark some interest and be a little fun.

** That might sound like a passive-aggressive whine, but I hadn't meant it that way.

11-29-2012, 01:19 PM	#33
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11-29-2012, 02:09 PM	#34
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	Regardless of whether this picks up and what form it takes, I'd recommend at least allowing those of us who don't want to give our real addresses the opportunity for a Steam edition of the festivities. ...And like, maybe we can set up so you could join one or the other or both. I'm definitely in the category right now of being very interested so long as we limit ourselves to digital distribution for the gifts. (That could encompass more than Steam, I suppose, if you could gift things over other services like GOG or iTunes.) I'll also repeat the recommendation of at least knowing who we're giving our gifts to. Randomize it so no one knows who they'll get gifts from, but ensure the giver is in the know as to where the gift s/he purchases will be going. That way if we create a list of everyone's system requirements and a list of the computer games they already own, we can ensure everyone receives a gift they can actually play. The net effect is still the same: The receivers of gifts will be just as surprised by the gift they get and who they get the gift from. This would just help us avoid spending our monies inappropriately. __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text. Last edited by Solid Snake; 11-29-2012 at 02:12 PM.

11-30-2012, 03:04 AM	#40
synkr0nized synk-ism Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: throughout the Wired Posts: 6,861	We are building a religion. All right, edited the OP. It's just way easier and less hassle to do this as digitally as possible. I have made a list of potential ways for us to gift with just email/Steam login information and no "real life" data. Then you'd just have to pew pew me you're preferred email and/or Steam info so I can make random pairings. I have no problem with being a go-between if a gift giver wants additional information about their receiver but does not want to reveal who they are ahead of time. I hadn't posted it, but I had originally been thinking of something like a ten to twenty-five dollar range. If that range is too wide, I'm down with what you all seem to have agreed upon -- about ten bucks US, if I have read the discussion correctly. It seems reasonable to me that a person who signs up could also list some preferences (e.g. what games they might be interested in on Steam, or for a broader potential the specs of their system and the genres they prefer? And if Steam is not your thing you could mention that you've got a few albums you want to buy or you've always wanted to have Netflix or you've been meaning to get something in the Live! Arcade but haven't had the points for it, etc.) with their email. edit: Actually thinking of iTunes or similar stores, can you actually purchase an album and gift that rather than just give a gift card? Maybe you think a person would like a band you like, for example, and you want to get him or her some of their music. I prefer to own physical media so I can rip/re-rip at my leisure, so I have never looked into doing something like that. I'm not perfect and can't create a solution that will make everyone happy, but hopefully this is decent enough to spark some interest and be a little fun. That might sound like a passive-aggressive whine, but I hadn't meant it that way. __________________ Find love. Last edited by synkr0nized; 11-30-2012 at 07:26 AM.

11-29-2012, 07:20 PM	#35
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	WAIT WAIT WAIT, I'M IN IF I CAN GET GEM. I GOT A SWEET PRESENT FOR HIM. ALSO I'M IN CHINA AND I CAN'T ACCESS LIKE 90% OF THE WEBSITES I READ. I'M SUCK A DEVIANT.