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Unread 04-26-2010, 10:58 PM   #1
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Unread 04-26-2010, 11:17 PM   #2
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I think we need to run. look we couldn't handle the dweller, I doubt we can do anything about the thing that killed it in half a second
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Unread 04-27-2010, 12:48 PM   #3
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I think we need to run. look we couldn't handle the dweller, I doubt we can do anything about the thing that killed it in half a second
I think we are mostly all in agreement with this at this time. The Robot is just too much. That said, it may be quite possible for the robot to simply seal us in our little hole. We don't know that there's another way out... so hm.

Oddly, we know that the robot is "Guardian" - but "Guardian" of what? Of the plaque? Of this whole? Yeah, we know the glass came from "above"... but why? Where did we come from? Why did we just spontaneously start existing (and evolving) in this pit? Were we in that glass beaker/vial/thing that shattered? Was that red stuff we drank? Were both we and that red stuff? We don't know.

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>compare "taste" of red liquid to Dweller's 'leakyness' and think if they're similar*

*I know we could experience (and still can experience) 'taste' without a devoted tongue because the red stuff tasted 'salty' and the mushrooms were 'delicious'.

It's quite possible that the Guardian is here to prevent the experiments (creatures like ourself and the dweller) from getting out. Perhaps its after the gold thing. Perhaps it simply is there to ensure that the gold thing doesn't leave (though that seems unlikely as it punched us the first time it saw us, even without the gold thing). It's still quite telling that the only 'sentient' life we've found so far is: a Dweller (tentacle horror) and a Guardian (massive punchy robot).

My point - again - is that we're lacking in information. But also that we should get some ideas going here. We need to think - why was the "Dweller" dwelling there - obviously it can't stand light, but why here? Why is the "Guardian" guarding here? What is the "Guardian" guarding? Is it independantly sentient, or is it highly limited in its programming with only apparent sentience due to the parameters it opperates under (like a golem)? I know its likely we won't come up with actual answers, but I'd like to hear from others and see what they think... and we might be able to get some ideas together for hammering out how things work.
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Unread 04-27-2010, 01:28 PM   #4
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My point - again - is that we're lacking in information. But also that we should get some ideas going here. We need to think - why was the "Dweller" dwelling there - obviously it can't stand light, but why here? Why is the "Guardian" guarding here? What is the "Guardian" guarding? Is it independantly sentient, or is it highly limited in its programming with only apparent sentience due to the parameters it opperates under (like a golem)? I know its likely we won't come up with actual answers, but I'd like to hear from others and see what they think... and we might be able to get some ideas together for hammering out how things work.
That sounds like waaaaaay to much using your thinking brain to work through our squishy, lazer-eyed problems. Imagine that we have the mental capacity of a cat. Enough autonomy to make humans think we are intelligent yet at the same time very instinct driven.

In our current situation what we are doing is failing at hunting. We have the most awesome ability to consciously acquire evolutionary adaptations at will. Our biggest hold-up is the conference in our mind that is interfering with our focus.

Decisions for the here and now are as follows:
-Herbivore, Carnivore, Omnivore, or at the very least, Predator or Prey? We need to pick one and stick with it. We need to settle on a frame of mind and work our evolutions to fit the mold.
-Fight or flee? The Dweller is not going to go away. We can either fight it now or spend our time running from it. We need to establish the food chain of this little hole and I want us to be on top.
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Unread 04-27-2010, 01:38 PM   #5
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Also: Laser eyes.
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Unread 04-27-2010, 02:19 PM   #6
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Well, except Krylo.
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Unread 04-27-2010, 02:24 PM   #7
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Unless there's a shortage of prey and an abundance of mushrooms. Let's stay Omnivore for now, and go Predator when we're in an environment with enough edible creatures.

And I really, really think we should abandon the laser eyes. They aren't effective! We're armed with a laser pointer! What're we gonna do? Blind our prey to death?
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Unread 04-30-2010, 07:31 AM   #9
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I whole-heartedly agree with Omnivore, however I don't think we can fully decide predator or prey.
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Well it was a decision on what we should evolve toward, not what we should be right now, and predator > prey. Obviously.
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And I really, really think we should abandon the laser eyes. They aren't effective! We're armed with a laser pointer! What're we gonna do? Blind our prey to death?
Evolve them into actual weapons. Keep up with the thread.

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Also: Humans.

And Golden Eagles, and most tigers, and most bears off the top of my head.

Most areas have an alpha predator, or groups of alpha predators, whose populations are controlled only by how many prey animals are around.
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Unread 04-30-2010, 09:34 AM   #10
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Yeah you generally don't see any elephants or giraffes beating up on lions you know. Or anything else beating up on them really.
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