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Unread 04-11-2011, 03:36 AM   #41
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That makes them a cult.
You... really don't grasp the concept of a cult very well, do you?

Also, not legally recognized as a religion doesn't really mean it's not a religion. Just wasn't acknowledged as one by the government. Making religion an exclusive club the way you guys are is pretty bad, because most all religions are fucked up in some way, and so your claims about why Kopimism doesn't count can be turned against them.
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Unread 04-11-2011, 04:00 AM   #42
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Also, not legally recognized as a religion doesn't really mean it's not a religion. Just wasn't acknowledged as one by the government.
I don't know, a few hundred guys elected mostly on their political skills and economic platforms with no particularal religious authority sounds like a pretty good supreme arbiterer of religion for me.
This is why I disavow Christianity as a religion, when have the Romans led me astray.

Though I'm a little concerned that the US are allowed to decide religious status. I'm throwing my lot in with the Chinese so I'm sorry Jews, you're not a religion anymore.
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Unread 04-11-2011, 04:04 AM   #43
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Christian religions are officially un-legit. They're all to recent for me. Not enough historical basis. You gotta be at least three thousand years old to roll with me.
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I only accept religions founded in 1864. Any newer and they way too modern. Can't be any older because historical people are stupid and believe in like gods in rocks and thing.
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The line between cult and religion is so fine it's almost non-existent. But yeah, you guys are right, I shouldn't be calling them a cult. Looking back on this, arguing what does and does not make a religion is pointless and can easily go on forever.

Still, (like I said earlier) it looks to me like the whole thing is a scam to avoid the penalties of infringing copyright, trademark, and patent law. That's just my personal view on it. Sure this 19 year old philosophy student might have absolute faith that people should be allowed to copy whatever they want because it's morally right. That doesn't change that he's trying to evade the consequences of breaking the law.
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That doesn't change that he's trying to evade the consequences of breaking the law.
That he's trying to avoid getting in trouble with the law doesn't make it not-a-religion either.
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I'm done arguing that it is or is not a religion. I was done when I wrote the line you quoted too.
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Add in IQ's point of subjecting others forcibly to your beliefs and you get something in the same class, although a lower level, as anti-abortion legislation and other things.
I was arguing that copying someone's files is a pretty trivial way to force your beliefs on them. It could maybe be an issue if their beliefs specifically included a dogmatic opposition to copying files. . .

Let's say my beliefs encouraged me to, at one point in my life, stand within 20 feet of you and wear a red hat. Would that make you feel my beliefs were forced on you, or oppressing or invading you in some way?
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I was arguing that copying someone's files is a pretty trivial way to force your beliefs on them. It could maybe be an issue if their beliefs specifically included a dogmatic opposition to copying files. . .
All in favor of founding Anti-Kopimism and bringing a holy war to the nonbelievers?
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