Is America the greatest country in the world? - Page 6

Ravashak · 08-25-2010, 03:25 PM

Well, I guess Moonsorrow (to name a good one, imo) does need a bit of easing into, I can listen to it all day though =)

Osterbaum · 08-25-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Melfice

It's funny, really.
The European Union works (more or less) exactly like the United States.

States have their own laws, plus the Federal government to make laws that affect every member.
EU members have their own laws, plus the European government to make laws that affect every member.

The main differences are we didn't actually have a government government until recently, and we speak different languages in nearly every "state". (Although some of the accents in the US could very well constitute for languages. (this is ignoring immigrants that have not (yet) learned English))

EDIT: So, in the end, you can't compare only one European Union member to the entire US.
Gotta play fair, and all!

The EU doesn't have it's own joint Armed Forces. So that's like each state having a National Guard and there being no federal Armed Forces. At the moment we do have the different Rapid Deployment Forces which are joint forces of two or more member states that are on stand-by for six months though. But I don't think these are usually larger than about the size of a regiment. It's not like there hasn't been any talk about a a joint Armed Forces or atleast a deeper level of co-operation on defense though.

What do the EU founding documents and later amendments say about military co-operation/aid between member states?

Also, it would be easier for a EU member state to be kicked out or to resign of the Union than with a US state I think.

POS Industries · 08-25-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Osterbaum

Also, it would be easier for a EU member state to be kicked out or to resign of the Union than with a US state I think.

Much easier, yes. It's officially impossible for an American state to do it now.

We had this big war a while back over it.

Professor Smarmiarty · 08-25-2010, 04:18 PM

Also all the EU states hate each other.
And the "government" is laughably ineffectual, corrupt and useless.

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Originally Posted by POS Industries

We had this big war a while back over it.

I think I read something about that once.... it was somewhat derivative and inspired by the brutal Taranaki wars that occured just before.

Osterbaum · 08-25-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Smarty

Also all the EU states hate each other.
And the "government" is laughably ineffectual, corrupt and useless.

I'm not sure I agree completely, but I can't really completely deny this either. The thing is, I kind of wish the EU would become something better, something that could work. I see potential for truly peacefull co-operation between different countries and understanding between cultures etc. I just wish we'd actually get there.

POS Industries · 08-25-2010, 04:38 PM

It's cool, you guys just need more flags and shit.

Osterbaum · 08-25-2010, 04:45 PM

And some kind of pledge... Like a pledge of loyalty or something.

e: Also lions.

POS Industries · 08-25-2010, 05:08 PM

Be sure to shoehorn something about God into the pledge years after it was written. Otherwise it loses the magical properties necessary to make communists burst into flames if they try to recite it.

Professor Smarmiarty · 08-25-2010, 05:18 PM

This man tells the truth. When I went to America earlier this year, I tried to recite it to trick the border guards. I got two lines into it and nearly passed out.

01d55 · 08-25-2010, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

Also all the EU states hate each other.
And the "government" is laughably ineffectual, corrupt and useless.

We were talking about things that distinguish the EU from the US, not the attributes they have in common.

08-25-2010, 03:25 PM	#51
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08-25-2010, 04:38 PM	#56
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	It's cool, you guys just need more flags and shit. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

08-25-2010, 04:45 PM	#57
Osterbaum The revolution will be memed! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: FIN Posts: 5,967	And some kind of pledge... Like a pledge of loyalty or something. e: Also lions. __________________ D is for Dirty Commie!

08-25-2010, 05:08 PM	#58
POS Industries Argus Agony Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gotta go fishing! Posts: 10,483	Be sure to shoehorn something about God into the pledge years after it was written. Otherwise it loses the magical properties necessary to make communists burst into flames if they try to recite it. __________________ Either you're dead or my watch has stopped.

08-25-2010, 05:18 PM	#59
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	This man tells the truth. When I went to America earlier this year, I tried to recite it to trick the border guards. I got two lines into it and nearly passed out.