The Sands of Time - In the Beginning

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Locke cole

Maybe a noncommital sign, to get his attention. Maybe make the Eternal Flame flare up a bit more for a brief moment. Nothing permanent, just something he'll notice.

Seconding this for now.

Also wondering how energy it would take to change the properties of the eternal flame. The rest of the people in that village seem pretty non-commital and another miracle'd be good. Especially if it's a self-repeating one.

Say, making the flame cleanse impurities and heal wounds instead of consuming flesh.

Though we'll probably have to wait a bit to do this.

[Locke cole]

Thing is, we don't want to get too trigger-happy with full-blown miracles. The more we do miracles, the more our followers will expect us to throw miracles at every problem they have, and overextending ourself is going to kill us.

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Locke cole

Thing is, we don't want to get too trigger-happy with full-blown miracles. The more we do miracles, the more our followers will expect us to throw miracles at every problem they have, and overextending ourself is going to kill us.

That's the point of changing the very structure of the flames, though. We shouldn't have to do much/anything else as it will be a constant reminder of our power. Plus, a healing flame that can cure diseases and mend wounds?

When stories of that get out we'll get pilgrims from all over.

[Geminex]

Thought, could we use a high priest of sorts? Give the guy a staff with a knob of eternal fire, tell him to spread our word?

[Krylo]

One git of eternal fire is already a constant drain on us. We should limit ourselves to one persistent effect for the time being, I think.

[Lumenskir]

Also wondering how energy it would take to change the properties of the eternal flame. The rest of the people in that village seem pretty non-commital and another miracle'd be good. Especially if it's a self-repeating one.

Say, making the flame cleanse impurities and heal wounds instead of consuming flesh.

I like this idea. To keep it within the wheelhouse we have now (fire, enhancement, growth) we could start with crops and work our way up when the power display convinces more people. Like, send our main guy a flash of inspiration to burn some seeds/whatever, then spread the ashes on their farmland, then insta-farm. Might be a little less power intensive than eternal panacea.

Thought, could we use a high priest of sorts? Give the guy a staff with a knob of eternal fire, tell him to spread our word?

Hmm, this is probably a future-god concern, but we should at least plot out a rough outline of how the hierarchy of our faith followers is gonna be, at least as a way to avoid civil wars and anti-popes.

[Satan's Onion]

Originally Posted by Lumenskir

I like this idea. To keep it within the wheelhouse we have now (fire, enhancement, growth) we could start with crops and work our way up when the power display convinces more people. Like, send our main guy a flash of inspiration to burn some seeds/whatever, then spread the ashes on their farmland, then insta-farm. Might be a little less power intensive than eternal panacea.

Not a bad idea for whatever comes soon after this, but first we ought to get his attention so we can figure out exactly what it is he's begging for here. Maybe he needs a good harvest, maybe his wife has cancer, maybe he's got boner issues, I dunno. (Come to think of it, though, all of those are pretty well within our wheelhouse.)

Also, we don't need to act as an "eternal panacea"--just one or two miraculous cures every so often should be enough to keep 'em loyal, if that's the kind of thing we're gonna decide to do. (It works for the Christian one, after all .)

[Krylo]

Originally Posted by Satan's Onion

Also, we don't need to act as an "eternal panacea"--just one or two miraculous cures every so often should be enough to keep 'em loyal, if that's the kind of thing we're gonna decide to do.

Yeah but I think Eternal Panacea might be better in the long run, 'cause it'd just be a change to the flame and then let it keep on going independent of our actual will other than the constant drain it's already causing (maybe a little more).

And later on we could add conditions like, it only heals the faithful, or the innocent, and burns others. Make it central to society, especially with the innocent one. Not only using it to heal the sick but as a part of their society's criminal justice system.

Maybe give it an AoE effect that makes everything healthier in whatever distance of the flame.

As for church organization, I suggest not having one, and just striking down anyone who claims to speak in our name unless we've actually told them anything. That way we don't have to worry about dealing with the 'official' church adding things they shouldn't to our faith.

[Krylo]

Basically I'm advocating a slew of passive constant effects rather than anything we have to actively cause, as that way we can just sit back and collect prayer juice and do whatever we want with it, rather than being beholden to specific prayers that everyone makes constantly (wah wah my child is dying of plague, just throw them in the fire and leave us out of it).

[Lumenskir]

Basically I'm advocating a slew of passive constant effects rather than anything we have to actively cause, as that way we can just sit back and collect prayer juice and do whatever we want with it,

Personally, I saw we bank on this and basically turn the flame into a franchise. Get a homebase set up, then send out people who basically carry a portion of the flame to a location, explain what it does to new villages, and then install it for them to use. Maybe personalize each flame to a location's particulars. Again, probably a longer-term problem.

Speaking through the flames: 40 energy

So, seeing as we only have 5 energy now we have to be super duper subtle to communicate, huh? Also, is speech the other "Sense" we have, in addition to Seeing and Hearing?