Pokemon Umbral Discussion 21: We'll Get To Mission 3 Eventually... - Page 9

Geminex · 05-19-2010, 05:20 AM

Oh god. That's huge. You don't get to call yourself lazy, not if you do so much work. How much is that, 6000 words? 8000? You, sir are awesome.

Anyway, this is really impressive, I'll write down my questions later. I have a few.

Two to begin with, how do shock troopers work again? And can engineers construct for free?

Astral Harmony · 05-19-2010, 05:28 AM

Shock Troopers are just really powerful fighters. They've got themselves, they've got their Pokemon, they've got all kinds of pain to bring to the table.

Engineers require only 50/100 RP...or is it 25/100 RP? It's in the document, I'm sure. Anyways, it costs RP to construct and that's it. No items, no turns lost, no nothin'.

Engineers will probably be upgraded on down the road with more stuff to construct, but Pierce told me in a PM once that he wants to bring one of his characters over to PATCA as an Engineer, so I need to think carefully about it so that when that character does join, she has something to construct.

Then again, there's probably nothing wrong with having two Engineers that can construct the same thing.

This Shuffle dating sim game plays out very much like the anime did.

As for the document's size, a good chunk of its data was pretty much typed down elsewhere. I've got like...maybe ten documents with various data, links to various posts in the discussion threads...most of the work was just piecing it all together and then organizing it to that it could be easily read and understood.

Geminex · 05-19-2010, 06:07 AM

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- The Shock Trooper is like an Enforcer who can be in the ally formation even if the main formation is all together. Each Shock Trooper has their own unique ability.

Ok, so what'd you mean by this, again? Remind me? Please?

Oh, and I'll need someone to alert Impact that his behavior doesn't seem very sympathetic to other people (otherwise I can't change it and stay IC). This individual could be an NPC or PC, don't mind, much. Except for Pierce. It can't be Pierce.

Dracorion · 05-19-2010, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Geminex

Oh, and I'll need someone to alert Impact that his behavior doesn't seem very sympathetic to other people (otherwise I can't change it and stay IC). This individual could be an NPC or PC, don't mind, much. Except for Pierce. It can't be Pierce.

It'll definitely be Pierce. *Insert evil laugh*

And damnit AB, I wanted to keep Elizabeth under wraps!

Geminex · 05-19-2010, 06:24 AM

Wait, we get to invent NPCs?

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It'll definitely be Pierce. *Insert evil laugh*

See, if Pierce tells him Impact will be all like "Mind your own business. Also, I slept with your mother." If, say, Charlotte or Renny tell him his reaction would be different, but he'd actually react instead of insulting them.

Dracorion · 05-19-2010, 06:26 AM

If Pierce does it, Impact will be pissed and less receptive to whoever else tells him after.

Well, I get to invent NPCs. You might be able to, too. Except you probably can't make the perfect girl for Impact. I mean, Pierce and Elizabeth are specifically never getting together.

Geminex · 05-19-2010, 06:55 AM

No, he won't. Trust me, I know him well.

Nah, I won't make his ideal girl. But hey, Impact has a Past. Perhaps some former squadmates. With rank in Prideguard.
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We get to control our own NPCs, right?

Dracorion · 05-19-2010, 07:02 AM

Um... no. Yeah, no. Seriously, I'm not lying. Why would I lie?

Impact has a past? And here I thought he just spontaneously generated one day, as old, evil and bastardy as he is now.

Geminex · 05-19-2010, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dracorion

Um... no. Yeah, no. Seriously, I'm not lying. Why would I lie?

Because you know about my plot to have Impact ask Rayleen for an official promotion once he's gained control over the Watchmen (just to establish a hierarchy and make operations in other jurisdictions easier, since, with rank, the officers of other PATCA branches actually have to obey him), then, when we eliminate the corrupt prideguard general, to suggest that Prideguard be integrated with PATCA. He'd offer to manage the integration (because he's got it all planned out already, and has the best knowlege of what needs to be done) and require a further promotion to, say, general, to be sure that potentially uncooperative Prideguard members have no choice but to obey his orders and give him the necessary authority and resources to manage such a huge undertaking. If former squad mates of his were officers in Prideguard, that'd justify his promotion to "temporary general" even more. Though eventually he'd arrange to have the "temporary" dropped.

Dracorion · 05-19-2010, 07:24 AM

Well, for one, I'm not sure what kinda promotion Rayleen would give Impact. "Field commander"? It would only feel like it's for show, even if it's a real promotion. Impact wouldn't really get more respect.

Also, I doubt Rayleen or even Shevetson have the authority to promote Impact to Prideguard. I mean, she could use her connections with the President, I guess, but that doesn't seem like a card she plays very often and I doubt she'd use it just for Impact.

Also, the Prideguard and PATCA are two different organizations, if only because one is law-enforcement and the other is military.

Man, I gotta come up with some cool stuff for Elizabeth to make. The other Engineers have weather effect clearing covered, so I guess that's more room for better items. She's not the kind to make mines and traps like Heidi, either. So I guess she'll be making Evoliths and status items with more kick than Mirror or Moon.

AB, lemme see if I got this straight: for every mission, we'll have space for ten characters, right? Five of those spaces will be occupied by the PCs, and the rest are for specialties. But Enforcers don't take up a slot, so in essence we get 15 characters, five of which are Enforcers and can't do anything until we switch them in?

Also, I changed Pierce's Co-Op Technique a bit:
Co-op Technique (Tyranitar & Blaziken)
Hellfire: Tyranitar launches three enemies into the sky with a powerful Earthquake, while Blaziken leaps into the air and delivers a powerful aerial beatdown to the enemies. Then Tyranitar pummels them with large rocks using Stone Edge, and Blaziken fires a powerful Overheat until finally the unlucky targets come crashing to the ground in a large fireball.
Effect: Critical damage dealt to three targets. 50% chance to inflict burn status on targets, 50% chance to inflict Internal Bleeding.
Consumes 100/100 Rage Points.

Was originally going to be that crippling effect that the Raikners did on Impact back at the party, but I like Internal Bleeding better. So approve it AB.

05-19-2010, 05:28 AM	#82
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Shock Troopers are just really powerful fighters. They've got themselves, they've got their Pokemon, they've got all kinds of pain to bring to the table. Engineers require only 50/100 RP...or is it 25/100 RP? It's in the document, I'm sure. Anyways, it costs RP to construct and that's it. No items, no turns lost, no nothin'. Engineers will probably be upgraded on down the road with more stuff to construct, but Pierce told me in a PM once that he wants to bring one of his characters over to PATCA as an Engineer, so I need to think carefully about it so that when that character does join, she has something to construct. Then again, there's probably nothing wrong with having two Engineers that can construct the same thing. This Shuffle dating sim game plays out very much like the anime did. As for the document's size, a good chunk of its data was pretty much typed down elsewhere. I've got like...maybe ten documents with various data, links to various posts in the discussion threads...most of the work was just piecing it all together and then organizing it to that it could be easily read and understood. Last edited by Astral Harmony; 05-19-2010 at 05:31 AM.

05-19-2010, 06:26 AM	#86
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	If Pierce does it, Impact will be pissed and less receptive to whoever else tells him after. Well, I get to invent NPCs. You might be able to, too. Except you probably can't make the perfect girl for Impact. I mean, Pierce and Elizabeth are specifically never getting together. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

05-19-2010, 07:02 AM	#88
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Um... no. Yeah, no. Seriously, I'm not lying. Why would I lie? Impact has a past? And here I thought he just spontaneously generated one day, as old, evil and bastardy as he is now. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

05-19-2010, 07:24 AM	#90
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Well, for one, I'm not sure what kinda promotion Rayleen would give Impact. "Field commander"? It would only feel like it's for show, even if it's a real promotion. Impact wouldn't really get more respect. Also, I doubt Rayleen or even Shevetson have the authority to promote Impact to Prideguard. I mean, she could use her connections with the President, I guess, but that doesn't seem like a card she plays very often and I doubt she'd use it just for Impact. Also, the Prideguard and PATCA are two different organizations, if only because one is law-enforcement and the other is military. Man, I gotta come up with some cool stuff for Elizabeth to make. The other Engineers have weather effect clearing covered, so I guess that's more room for better items. She's not the kind to make mines and traps like Heidi, either. So I guess she'll be making Evoliths and status items with more kick than Mirror or Moon. AB, lemme see if I got this straight: for every mission, we'll have space for ten characters, right? Five of those spaces will be occupied by the PCs, and the rest are for specialties. But Enforcers don't take up a slot, so in essence we get 15 characters, five of which are Enforcers and can't do anything until we switch them in? Also, I changed Pierce's Co-Op Technique a bit: Co-op Technique (Tyranitar & Blaziken) Hellfire: Tyranitar launches three enemies into the sky with a powerful Earthquake, while Blaziken leaps into the air and delivers a powerful aerial beatdown to the enemies. Then Tyranitar pummels them with large rocks using Stone Edge, and Blaziken fires a powerful Overheat until finally the unlucky targets come crashing to the ground in a large fireball. Effect: Critical damage dealt to three targets. 50% chance to inflict burn status on targets, 50% chance to inflict Internal Bleeding. Consumes 100/100 Rage Points. Was originally going to be that crippling effect that the Raikners did on Impact back at the party, but I like Internal Bleeding better. So approve it AB. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away. Last edited by Dracorion; 05-20-2010 at 07:37 AM.

05-19-2010, 05:20 AM	#81
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Oh god. That's huge. You don't get to call yourself lazy, not if you do so much work. How much is that, 6000 words? 8000? You, sir are awesome. Anyway, this is really impressive, I'll write down my questions later. I have a few. Two to begin with, how do shock troopers work again? And can engineers construct for free?

05-19-2010, 06:55 AM	#87
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	No, he won't. Trust me, I know him well. Nah, I won't make his ideal girl. But hey, Impact has a Past. Perhaps some former squadmates. With rank in Prideguard. ... We get to control our own NPCs, right?