Mafia Time! - Page 9

Geminex · 12-14-2011, 04:44 PM

Even if those active players are scum and trying to manipulate town, they're still interacting and sharing info. Leaving evidence, kinda.

That's how I see it, anyway. But that's based on 3 games' worth of experience, so I might be wrong.

**Revising Ocelot** · 12-14-2011, 04:55 PM

Whoa, day's almost done already.
I cannot believe that Nikose thought that Adventure Time was a webcomic. I've never seen an episode and I've had minimal exposure to it - I don't think the program's even shown in the UK, but I still knew it was a show simply because the quality of the mountains of GIFs made from it are far higher than, say, the average Conga Hussie.

But Inbred Chocobo suddenly getting antsy about an early Nikose Miller claim for the wrong reasons? And then they vote each other, followed by conveniently unvoting each other to gang up on Kerensky. The whole 'early vote each other' is a classic Scum tactic, if I recall. I'm not buying it.

Unvote: Smarty

Vote: Inbred Chocobo

Simply because I suspect IC more than Nikose right now.

Kerensky287 · 12-14-2011, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BahamutFlare

I read this as starting a grudge mid-game. Not the actual vote. Nikose just accepted your grudge. And then it led to massive wtf.

Everyone keeps ninja'ing me.

Unvote: Kerensky

I don't think now is a good time to risk losing the Vig. Sorry Kerensky, I just seen the humor as carrying on a bit too far. And the first one I failed to realize as a joke.

Understood! I admit that I definitely did take the whole grudge thing a little too far.

And to reiterate, I AM always a little weird in Mafia games. I probably post way too much, and am way too open about tactics and suspicions. But I figure what's the point of playing Mafia if you aren't actually playing?

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Originally Posted by Revolving Ocelot

Whoa, day's almost done already.
I cannot believe that Nikose thought that Adventure Time was a webcomic. I've never seen an episode and I've had minimal exposure to it - I don't think the program's even shown in the UK, but I still knew it was a show simply because the quality of the mountains of GIFs made from it are far higher than, say, the average Conga Hussie.

It's possible that you're just smarter than Nikose.

*trollface.jpg*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revolving Ocelot

But Inbred Chocobo suddenly getting antsy about an early Nikose Miller claim for the wrong reasons? And then they vote each other, followed by conveniently unvoting each other to gang up on Kerensky. The whole 'early vote each other' is a classic Scum tactic, if I recall. I'm not buying it.

Unvote: Smarty

Vote: Inbred Chocobo

Simply because I suspect IC more than Nikose right now.

Very valid points. The whole Nikose/Miller thing has sort of dominated D1, and almost everyone has reacted to it in some way, but IC's reaction WAS sort of... intense.

Geminex · 12-14-2011, 06:22 PM

Well, pretty much the entirety of the case against IC consists of the fact that he called you scum for claiming miller. And yeah, jumping on a roleclaim and trying to discredit it is something scum would do. But it's just as possible that that was a genuine mistake. For now, I am fairly willing to buy that. Just as I was pretty willing to buy your response to my suspicions (you later roleclaimed convincingly, but up till then, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt). Sure, IC might be scum. But he might be town. By waiting, we'll gain more information.

That was really my logic. If there was a really strong case against him, I'd probably be voting as well. I would've been perfectly willing to vote for you in MLP mafia, for example. But... gah! I'm just not sufficiently convinced.

My logic in voting for moogle is really that not posting is suspicious, and I'd rather lynch someone who we're not gonna learn anything about than someone who's talking to us.

Hell, I thought lynching inactive players was good?

Look, lemme go over IC's posts again. Maybe you saw something that I didn't, I dunno. Or... hell, convince me.

Inbred Chocobo · 12-14-2011, 05:23 PM

Look, Nikose's claim to be miller was done in an odd and bizarre fashion. Not calling him on it and taking the claim at face value is something I just couldn't do. I got what I wanted, more information about his role, and that satisfied me. (The thing saying what character he was was actually really useful). I think we have said enough about that situation so I'm dropping it now.

Next up is Kerensky's roleclaim. Yeah... it actually feels like he isn't bluffing for any reason, nor can I think of any reason why he would claim a vig role if he wasn't that. So I'm entitled to believe him on that one. That means however the majority vote sits on our Vig, which may not actually be a good thing. Other people that have votes on them are Greed, Moogle, and Myself.

Greed, well I can't get a read on him really. Hasn't posted a whole lot, but I'm sure he will have something to say when his time to check on the computer will arrive. So not really inclined to say anything about him till I see what he has to say about the situation.

Moogle is pretty much always afk for these games. That isn't a good thing, but that doesn't mean he is scum.

Then me. Uh, self analysis says that I called out what should've been an obvious claim due to how the claim was done. Otherwise actions really don't read that much. Course, self analysis there so whatever.

In the interest of keeping Kerensky alive so he can try to get a night or two with killing as the vig (maybe the doctor will protect him and he won't kill them) and I like being in the game

Vote: Moogle

Maybe more evidence will come up on someone else, as I really am not comfortable going with a lynch on him. (In fact, FoS: Geminex, as going after inactives is normally a bad thing) However, I really don't have anything else.

Ryanderman · 12-14-2011, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geminex

Vote: Moogle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inbred Chocobo

Vote: Moogle

FOS: Geminex
FOS: Inbred Chocobo

Cause what the heck? It's day 1. Moogle hasn't done much of anything, while lots of other people have done lots of very interesting things, but we're going to go after him cause we've got nothing else?

Theory:
Geminex is mafia. He saw the 4 hour deadline, saw the majority vote on Kerensky, who is also be mafia, got worried, and tried to build a case for a lynch on someone else. The case against Nikose lead by IC wasn't going anywhere, so he went for Moogle as a convenient target. Then IC, who is a third mafiate, followed his teammate's lead and also voted for Moogle.

So also, FOS: Kerensky287 Admittedly, that's kinda unfair of me, as I'm basing it off the votes against him and the actions of others, rather than on anything in particular he did, but it stands.

I'm not ready to vote for any of them, as we've got time before the end of the day, and my theory is just a theory.

Nikose Tyris · 12-14-2011, 05:23 PM

...Gem. I'm... suspicious of your desire to not vote for a very suspicious IC [Or Kerensky].

I have no reason to switch my vote to Moogle, and your desire to do so in the face of IC's obvious bad call against me [when declaration of Miller is literally a "Do it day 1" thing]...

...Well, it reflects badly on you.

My leanings are that Kerensky and IC are Scum. One of those two should get lynched.

Aldurin · 12-14-2011, 05:39 PM

Vote: Inbred Chocobo

Your whole behavior for this day is just giving me scum tells. I apologize in advance if you're town.

Gregness · 12-14-2011, 05:47 PM

Really, the proper way to handle someone roleclaiming Vig is to unvote them immediately and let them be. If he's scum and there's another vig, he'll just get capped tonight. If he's scum and there's no vig, we'll know by the number of kills tonight. If he's non-vig town, then the only reason I can think of that he'd do this is to get us off him or to try and bait a mafia kill.

Nikose Tyris · 12-14-2011, 06:17 PM

UNVOTE: KERENSKY
VOTE: INBRED CHOCOBO

FOS: Geminex

I like Greg's thinking.

12-14-2011, 04:55 PM	#2
Revising Ocelot Douchebag Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Probably somewhere in England. Posts: 1,897	Whoa, day's almost done already. I cannot believe that Nikose thought that Adventure Time was a webcomic. I've never seen an episode and I've had minimal exposure to it - I don't think the program's even shown in the UK, but I still knew it was a show simply because the quality of the mountains of GIFs made from it are far higher than, say, the average Conga Hussie. But Inbred Chocobo suddenly getting antsy about an early Nikose Miller claim for the wrong reasons? And then they vote each other, followed by conveniently unvoting each other to gang up on Kerensky. The whole 'early vote each other' is a classic Scum tactic, if I recall. I'm not buying it. Unvote: Smarty Vote: Inbred Chocobo Simply because I suspect IC more than Nikose right now. __________________ magic sucks

12-14-2011, 05:47 PM	#9
Gregness Never give up. Never give in. Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,034	Really, the proper way to handle someone roleclaiming Vig is to unvote them immediately and let them be. If he's scum and there's another vig, he'll just get capped tonight. If he's scum and there's no vig, we'll know by the number of kills tonight. If he's non-vig town, then the only reason I can think of that he'd do this is to get us off him or to try and bait a mafia kill. __________________ A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - Robert Heinlein

12-14-2011, 04:44 PM	#1
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Even if those active players are scum and trying to manipulate town, they're still interacting and sharing info. Leaving evidence, kinda. That's how I see it, anyway. But that's based on 3 games' worth of experience, so I might be wrong.

12-14-2011, 06:22 PM	#4
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Well, pretty much the entirety of the case against IC consists of the fact that he called you scum for claiming miller. And yeah, jumping on a roleclaim and trying to discredit it is something scum would do. But it's just as possible that that was a genuine mistake. For now, I am fairly willing to buy that. Just as I was pretty willing to buy your response to my suspicions (you later roleclaimed convincingly, but up till then, I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt). Sure, IC might be scum. But he might be town. By waiting, we'll gain more information. That was really my logic. If there was a really strong case against him, I'd probably be voting as well. I would've been perfectly willing to vote for you in MLP mafia, for example. But... gah! I'm just not sufficiently convinced. My logic in voting for moogle is really that not posting is suspicious, and I'd rather lynch someone who we're not gonna learn anything about than someone who's talking to us. Hell, I thought lynching inactive players was good? Look, lemme go over IC's posts again. Maybe you saw something that I didn't, I dunno. Or... hell, convince me.

12-14-2011, 05:23 PM	#5
Inbred Chocobo Bitches love the crown Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: In my happy place! Posts: 3,264	Look, Nikose's claim to be miller was done in an odd and bizarre fashion. Not calling him on it and taking the claim at face value is something I just couldn't do. I got what I wanted, more information about his role, and that satisfied me. (The thing saying what character he was was actually really useful). I think we have said enough about that situation so I'm dropping it now. Next up is Kerensky's roleclaim. Yeah... it actually feels like he isn't bluffing for any reason, nor can I think of any reason why he would claim a vig role if he wasn't that. So I'm entitled to believe him on that one. That means however the majority vote sits on our Vig, which may not actually be a good thing. Other people that have votes on them are Greed, Moogle, and Myself. Greed, well I can't get a read on him really. Hasn't posted a whole lot, but I'm sure he will have something to say when his time to check on the computer will arrive. So not really inclined to say anything about him till I see what he has to say about the situation. Moogle is pretty much always afk for these games. That isn't a good thing, but that doesn't mean he is scum. Then me. Uh, self analysis says that I called out what should've been an obvious claim due to how the claim was done. Otherwise actions really don't read that much. Course, self analysis there so whatever. In the interest of keeping Kerensky alive so he can try to get a night or two with killing as the vig (maybe the doctor will protect him and he won't kill them) and I like being in the game Vote: Moogle Maybe more evidence will come up on someone else, as I really am not comfortable going with a lynch on him. (In fact, FoS: Geminex, as going after inactives is normally a bad thing) However, I really don't have anything else.

12-14-2011, 05:39 PM	#8
Aldurin Lakitu Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,648	Vote: Inbred Chocobo Your whole behavior for this day is just giving me scum tells. I apologize in advance if you're town.