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Unread 02-14-2012, 12:49 PM   #41
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Assumption: Death Millers are actually mafia.

Proposal: Act on this assumption.
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Unread 02-14-2012, 12:52 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Half Assed" Karesh;1184311]Something very odd is going on this game, I was going to keep this hidden for a bit longer but with all the millers out the woodwork:
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That makes at least 1, (If I'm the only one being honest) and at most 4 millers.
Wait, let me get this straight.

Deathmiller claims:
Hawk
Ryanderman

Normal Miller claims
Karesh
BahamutFlare

I honestly get the feeling that one of the deathmiller claims is legit, since IC said that certain roles would modify what he says.

Unvote: Ryanderman

I'm going to give this some more time to boil.
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Unread 02-14-2012, 03:46 PM   #43
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How would a deathmiller showing up as mafia don make two mafia dons. that's dumb.
Hawk shows up as mafian don when dead. cool. Isn't there an actual mafian don though? meaning the network would have two dons. Who is going to be doing the killing? An underling? If Hawk isn't the Don, there's gotta be another don out there. This is what I meant. Who will be doing the killing? I'm a bit confused, so my words are well confusing. Sorry about this.

I kinda believe all the miller claims right now. Death or normal. I believe it especially because of the pairs. I wouldn't doubt pairs of a lot of things. Maybe 2 PO's. However, what Nikose says is what echoes.

Unvote: Hawk
Vote: Gem

I'll never get a tell on him anyway, and I'm going back to semi-random.
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Unread 02-14-2012, 04:04 PM   #44
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Unread 02-14-2012, 08:17 PM   #45
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Nikose stop being purposefully unhelpful.
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Unread 02-14-2012, 08:30 PM   #46
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Hawk shows up as mafian don when dead. cool. Isn't there an actual mafian don though? meaning the network would have two dons. Who is going to be doing the killing? An underling? If Hawk isn't the Don, there's gotta be another don out there. This is what I meant. Who will be doing the killing? I'm a bit confused, so my words are well confusing. Sorry about this.

One of them isn't a Don though. Assuming Hawk is correct he is not a Don and just appears to be one on death. the one doing the killing is the one who is actually a Don, ie no the deathmiller.
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Unread 02-14-2012, 09:29 PM   #47
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Karesh stop being the PO.
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Unread 02-14-2012, 09:38 PM   #48
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Okay. Things have been summed up pretty well already.

Millers could either be standard scum, or actual millers. Millers would claim to prevent the PO from wasting investigations, scum would claim to protect themselves from PO investigations.

Death millers could either be legit townies or could actually be Dons, as has already been stated. Now.

I can see why the role of "Legit" Death Miller would exist, namely to deprive us of post-lynch information. If we lynch a claimed death miller, we glean less information from the result of that lynch.

What rationale would scum have to claim death miller? Obviously, it is a way for a don to hide that he was don post-lynch. That obscures the amount of lynched scum players. At the same time, though, it draws attention to the don, and raises the question of whether or not he, in fact, is a don.

I don't think the first death miller claim is a don, because, unless scum have a lot of extra info, they wouldn't have had any information that the role existed in the first place. The second? Might be. It's a Wifom question.

Of course, they could both be scum, hiding under the death miller mantle, but I don't believe that. Two dons would be weird. And given the theme of the game, death millers seem plausible.

So my real response is "I have no idea, but let's not bee too hasty with our lynches".
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Unread 02-14-2012, 09:39 PM   #49
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And our fallback can always be to lynch nikose. : D
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Unread 02-15-2012, 05:35 AM   #50
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Why is everyone focused on the deathmiller claims and not the miller claims!
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