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Unread 08-23-2013, 05:04 PM   #21
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What's important to understand about the Old Republic Sith is that the second game retconned the fuck out of Revan's backstory.

In the first game, Revan was just a evil dick. He (canon Revan's a dude, right?) was some war hero dick who did some vaguely heroic things because the Jedi were being dicks then went mad with power and became a total asshole, because that's what people do. Then he got together with some other total assholes and formed the Sith. Then he got backstabbed by his own apprentice, because that's what Sith do. Then some dick Jedi brainwashed him while muttering "the greater good" under their breaths and he became the PC. THE END.

In the second game, this got turned into Revan being an all-seeing puppeteer who is all EVERYTHING IS PROCEEDING ACCORDING TO THE SCENARIO, and everything villainous he was doing was actually heroic all along, because the writers said so. The Sith are still entirely composed of the biggest assholes in the galaxy, but Revan was just using them because PLOTPLOTPLOT. THE END.

I will defend KotOR II to the death if necessary, but even I think the second one is kind of bullshit.

So, in the Old Republic continuity, both are fuckholes of the highest order. The Jedi are traditionalist, conservative assholes who will violate their own principles whenever it suits them. The Sith are a bunch of puppy-kicking backstabbing morons, albeit one with some maybe vague higher purpose, but whatever.

So fuck the lot of em. I'm with Bindo.

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Unread 08-23-2013, 05:42 PM   #22
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I coulda sworn the first one alluded to the whole 'unify the galaxy either with me or against me' thing on the rakata planet, but it's been forever and that's way too long to play to get to that, and I might be misremembering.

Regardless, in the Old Republic time, the Sith Emperor is the danger Revan was trying to unify the galaxy against, so no the Sith are just flat out evil (except, maybe, where they backstab the emperor a bunch, but that's just politiking for their own personal power).

Also the Sith Emperor wants to straight up mind control the entire galaxy. So there's that.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 05:50 PM   #23
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Yeah I definitely remember knowing that Revan was ultimately working for the benefit of the galaxy and wasn't actually an evil monster even before 2 came out.
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Everyone wants to be with Bindo, but you cannot merely Bindo.

By and large I wouldn't mind being True Neutral, because I often play the part of apathy and working toward my own ends because of the more powerful consensus. I like the concept of personal freedom, and dislike the concept of being bound by a greater order. It is why I am suffering so much right now.

But I will note that if I had the power to manipulate the Force, I would inevitably be drawn toward the Dark Side. My internal feelings are overbearing, chaotic, and often negative. I find elation in embracing my emotions, and I am excessively curious which the Dark Side embraces, and the Light Side stifles. By that measure I would likely be taken into the Sith, but even then I would be one of those horrifying Sith Scientists/Sorcerers.
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Unread 08-23-2013, 09:01 PM   #25
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Screw lightning or choking. I'd go full on crush heads like juicy pimples.
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Unread 08-26-2013, 02:19 AM   #26
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Unread 08-26-2013, 08:08 AM   #28
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Whichever side gets me the most power. But since there seems to be this whole balance thing going for the Force, well, I guess Dark Side. I've always wanted to shoot lightning out of my hands. And possibly aim it at the gas tanks on cars. When they cut me off.
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Unread 08-26-2013, 03:11 PM   #29
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If we go by the 2002 Star Wars core rule book made by Wizards of the Coast, which is the only one I have and served as a basis for KOTOR, you can still use dark side powers freely if you have a high enough Charisma. What makes dark side powers dark side, is that they rely on your passions and emotions. The dark side isn't inherently evil, that is just Jedi propaganda. But you do run a high risk of losing control. Course Jedi and Sith like to run around like they own the force.
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Unread 08-26-2013, 04:38 PM   #30
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