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Unread 01-28-2011, 05:08 AM   #21
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The level of transparency in Nik's trolling is rivaled only by the ease at which Fifth is trolled.

Now both y'alls knock it off.
Now that's what I call transparent trolling.

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With the judge using her as an example, will this really get the message across or does it seem, at least to me, that this could cause more problems...?
In fairness to the judge it seems to be less her than a county prosecutor gone wild.

http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/114346689.html

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The Summit County judge who sent an Akron mother to jail after she was convicted of falsifying records so her children could attend Copley-Fairlawn schools said considerable efforts were made to resolve the case before it went to trial.

Common Pleas Judge Patricia A. Cosgrove spoke out after becoming the target of public outcry over the case, which threatens the mother's job and her hopes to become a school teacher.

Cosgrove said the county prosecutor's office refused to consider reducing the charges to misdemeanors, and that all closed-door talks to resolve the case outside of court met with failure.

Kelley Williams-Bolar, 40, was sentenced Tuesday to 10 days in jail after a jury convicted her of two felony counts of tampering with records.

Cosgrove said numerous pretrial hearings were held since last summer.

''The state would not move, would not budge, and offer Ms. Williams-Bolar to plead to a misdemeanor,'' the judge said in an interview Wednesday.

''Of course, I can't put a gun to anybody's head and force the state to offer a plea bargain.''

County Prosecutor Sherri Bevan Walsh declined requests from the Beacon Journal to respond to the judge's comments.

Late Wednesday, Cosgrove issued a news release to area newspapers and television and radio stations, citing the need to respond to ''overwhelming public interest'' in her sentencing decision.

''The Summit County Prosecutor's Office retains complete control over whether to charge a person with a felony or a misdemeanor,'' the release stated.

Cosgrove's bailiff said the office had been bombarded by calls from angry area residents, most of whom were saying that Williams-Bolar's punishment far exceeded her crimes.

She is a single mother with two girls, ages 12 and 16, and is only a few credit hours short of graduating from the University of Akron with a teaching degree. She was working as a teaching assistant with special needs children at Buchtel High School. She also cared for her ailing father, who was charged with multiple felonies in the residency case.

Williams-Bolar was convicted of the two felony counts Saturday night after seven hours of jury deliberations.

On Tuesday, Cosgrove sentenced her to five years in prison but suspended all but 10 days in the county jail, saying that to not include time behind bars would ''demean the seriousness'' of the offenses.

She also was given two years of probation and 80 hours of community service.

During the sentencing hearing, the judge noted that Williams-Bolar faced another form of punishment.

''Because of the felony conviction,'' Cosgrove said, addressing Williams-Bolar directly inside the packed courtroom, ''you will not be allowed to get your teaching degree under Ohio law as it stands today.''

Cosgrove said that comment resulted in a ''a terrible misconception.''

''I did not mandate or order that her teaching license be suspended or revoked,'' Cosgrove said Wednesday. ''That is absolutely inaccurate.''

Cosgrove said Williams-Bolar's nonviolent felony offenses do not necessarily mean that she will lose her teaching certificate. She said Ohio law only states that a felony conviction ''may'' be grounds for such action.

The judge said the Ohio Department of Education will hold a hearing and make the final decision ''whether or not they will revoke her license.''

''I have nothing to do with that as a matter of law. Once she was convicted by a jury of any felony, that conviction has to be reported to the state, and then it's up to the state at that point in time to decide whether or not they're going to revoke her license,'' Cosgrove said. ''This is the Ohio legislature who wrote this law, not [this] court.''

Cosgrove said her reading of the statute leaves open the possibility Williams-Bolar can be a teacher ''because she was not convicted of an offense of violence [or] offenses of moral turpitude.''

Because Williams-Bolar had no previous felony record, Cosgrove said she will write a letter to the state Board of Education asking that Williams-Bolar's license not be revoked.

''I will do everything I can, as far as sending a letter, asking them not to consider it,'' the judge said.

Cosgrove also indicated she would consider expunging the felony conviction if Williams-Bolar successfully completes a minimum of six months of probation.

''I suspect she will,'' the judge said.
I mean maybe some of this is just her caving to public pressure but well if that is the case then hey... great! Ace job, public pressure.
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Unread 01-28-2011, 05:25 AM   #22
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Unread 01-28-2011, 05:35 AM   #23
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Well she should have done it the old-fashioned way, you rent out a small office in the district and claim you live there, keeping a sneaky eye out for school board inspectors. Faking documents is so amateurish.
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Unread 01-28-2011, 02:41 PM   #24
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girlFifth, shut up unless you actually have something meaningful to say.

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Now that's what I call transparent trolling.
Fifth, shut up unless you actually have something meaningful to say.

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this thread is going about as well as expected
Prem, shut up.


Now get your asses back on topic and keep your asses back on topic.
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Unread 01-28-2011, 04:34 PM   #25
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Just think of my repost (I do understand that reposting meanginful substance does yield diminishing returns) post (which is the only post I'll make here unless, say, I'm taunted into responding and for some reason I'm given the impression that addressing it through a polite PM as is my way isn't an option, and how would that ever happen?) as a service to Nikose, who is of course sincerely participating to this serious thread about an issue which he truly cares about. He wouldn't want some flimsy personal misunderstanding getting in the way of getting a clear picture of things, would he? It's not like he was intentionally invoking a literal fallacy that relies on a personal attack or anything. That'd probably be more against the spirit of the rules than it would be meaningless to the topic (and it would be plenty of that also.)

Or don't. Who am I kidding, using words on an internet forum?

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Unread 01-28-2011, 04:41 PM   #26
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Fifth, shut up unless you actually have something meaningful to say.
He did. He was trolled for saying it. When he called the person out on it, a mod trolled him for it. Two of the greatest detractors from this thread are an unrepentant, admitted troll and a mod. Telling Fifth and Archbio to shut up is pretty fuckin' asinine.
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Unread 01-28-2011, 04:50 PM   #27
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@girlFifth Holy run on sentence, Batman.

@Nonsie The reason that I didn't tell Nikose to shut up is that he was already reprimanded by a mod. You are also forgetting that Fifth began the trolling by posting that stupid goddamn .gif in response to a completely legitimate statement Nikose made.

Look buddy if you have a problem with my moderation style there are venues to raise complaints, and those venues are NOT in the threads in which I am moderating, capisce?

The next post in this line of conversation will result in a ban. Stop dragging threads off topic after I have explicitly stated that the thread needs to fuckin' go back on topic.
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Unread 01-28-2011, 07:46 PM   #28
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Default Whatever the case, I better be getting a reacharound.

Clearly Fifth has a better grasp of the racism at my school district than I do. I don't know why I even considered otherwise. So, would you like me to spit shine your shoes for you, or just suck your dick like everyone else?

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Unread 01-28-2011, 07:51 PM   #29
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Default I'm not banning him because it -is- on topic, which is more than I got from the rest.

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Unread 01-28-2011, 09:09 PM   #30
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Clearly Fifth has a better grasp of the racism at my school district than I do.
To be fair, he never claimed to have a better grasp of racism at your school district, just on the level of diversity in your school district.

Also, probably something about anecdotal evidence.

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So, would you like me to spit shine your shoes for you, or just suck your dick like everyone else?
Now, this question is just uncalled for.










He's made it abundantly clear that he prefers the second. BOOSH!

Also, a couple things that I dug up:

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news...rch-913786.php
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Court officials say former Akron police Sgt. Gary Webb pleaded guilty Monday to a felony charge of unauthorized use of the state's law enforcement database. A Summit County judge sentenced Webb, who resigned from the police department Friday, to six months probation.

Police Chief Craig Gilbride said investigators found that Webb conducted private investigations for Copley-Fairlawn City Schools to determine whether some families lived in the district and used the database to check families' license plates, the Akron Beacon Journal reported.

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He noted that one count against Webb covered a period from September 2008 through November 2008.
And http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...5_NSA342O.html

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WANTED: Students who attend Copley-Fairlawn city schools but do not live within district boundaries. $100 REWARD.

Since September, four people have taken Copley-Fairlawn schools officials up on their offer to pay for information on children attending school illegally. Other people offered information but turned down the bucks, school-board member Julie Schafer said.

The district in northeastern Ohio, about 35 miles south of Cleveland, started offering the payments at the beginning of the school year in what state Education Department officials think is the only such effort in the state.

The crackdown was prompted by bus drivers and school staff members observing students getting off in front of vacant buildings or parents in cars dropping off students at the bus stop. School officials suspected 100 of its 3,500 students resided in surrounding districts.

Officials say the reward, which is posted on the district's Web site, has prompted some students to leave voluntarily. Since September, 45 illegal students have left, some fearing exposure and possible civil action. Six others have decided to stay in the district and pay the annual tuition of $7,614.

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The district already has filed one lawsuit, demanding back tuition. "It's a theft of services," Poe said.
Now, theoretically, the indictment coincides with the Copley-Fairlawn loss of income, but both of those predate that by a year.

Also, Copley-Fairlawn lost the case wherein they charged "theft of services", so it's likely that the different set charges are a response to that.

My prediction: the district will feel it has to keep trying, because Copley and Fairlawn residents approved a school tax hike, and so now they have to look like they're protecting the tax money.

But, in that case, $8,000 per student per year? My college costs less than half that, and my teachers are doctors. Did I miss something?
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