Reddit was terrible as a community anyway

[Nique]

Linky

Anyways, yeah, apparently a reddit employee who was particularly active in AMA as a facilitator of especially famous public figure's AMA threads was fired and reddit mods closedo off their subreddits, many of them being some of the most viewed subreddits on the site, from the general userbase in protest. Also a bunch of sort of offensive stuff about Ellen Pao.

Apparently gigantic, far reaching internet communities can implode just as easily. I have to admit, I took a little satisfaction from that.

[Marc v4.0]

Originally Posted by Article

REDDIT IS REVOLTING

Yes, we're all well aware

[Arcanum]

The big problem was that they fired the employee without saying anything to the mods of AMA, so all of a sudden they had no liaison between them (the mods) and the several people scheduled for AMAs that day.

There's also rumors that reddit's higher-ups wanted to push for more commercialized AMAs and Victoria was opposed to that which resulted in her termination, not the Jesse Jackson AMA as the article implies. However both of these theories seem have the same amount of evidence backing them up, which is to say none at all (as far as I'm aware).

I think that reddit is perfectly entitled to fire whoever they feel the need to fire, obviously as long as there is a legitimate reason. They are, after all, a company and need to do what they feel is best for their company. But offering no warning or communication to the mods that would be significantly affected by that decision was an idiotic move.

Originally Posted by Nique

Reddit was terrible as a community anyway

Originally Posted by Marc

Yes, we're all well aware

One thing to keep in mind is that the petty and offensive actions of the reddit hivemind (there's a lot of shit being flung at Kim Pao right now) on the popular subreddits is in no way indicative of the attitudes of communities on smaller subreddits.

I see a lot of people on this site saying how terrible reddit is, but that's really only the case if you stick to the default subreddits, or other extremely popular subreddits, where the hivemind is most evident.

That's like someone coming to NPF, selectively reading the threads that devolve into complete shitshows, and deciding that every thread must be like that and that NPF is a terrible place filled with terrible people.

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by Arcanum

That's like someone coming to NPF, selectively reading the threads that devolve into complete shitshows, and deciding that every thread must be like that and that NPF is a terrible place filled with terrible people.

So a completely accurate assessment?

[Nique]

While it's true that identifying reddit's userbase as monolithic is about as inaccurate as identifying any other population that shares a few commonalities as monolithic, there is a perceived identity of 'a redditor' which, combined with the inter-sectional nature of the site's individual communities, make it difficult to perceive unique movements within the mob.

[Amake]

The difference is, reddit makes every effort to accomodate their users and make money from their pageviews, no matter how terrible. Especially to defend their most terrible, people-hating users, as far as I hear. And gives those hundreds of thousands of terrible people a common sense of identity. Makes them a nation, one might say.

With declaring yourself the front page of the internet comes a lot of responsibility, and reddit has failed completely for a long time to live up to any of it. It needs to disintegrate.

[Marc v4.0]

Originally Posted by Amake

The difference is, reddit makes every effort to accomodate their users and make money from their pageviews, no matter how terrible. Especially to defend their most terrible, people-hating users, as far as I hear. And gives those hundreds of thousands of terrible people a common sense of identity. Makes them a nation, one might say.

With declaring yourself the front page of the internet comes a lot of responsibility, and reddit has failed completely for a long time to live up to any of it. It needs to disintegrate.

This is what I, and most others, are getting at when we say that Reddit is trash.

It isn't because sometimes people use the service to do unscrupulous or unpopular things or because of the ever-present downward shift in content you get the larger communities become.

It is solely because the maintainers of Reddit have done the complete bare MINIMUM (read: Nothing) to contain or subvert the waves of communities built around harassment, creeping on women, creeping on the under-aged, etc until those places attracted enough attention from OUTSIDE of reddit that their inaction called their revenue into question, and then they only half-way committed to any action at all. Before they were forced to action, they actively encouraged these communities by either looking the other way when they drove off dissenters or propping them up with promotion and defenses against infractions that they couldn't just ignore completely.

That is why people say reddit is a tire fire.

[Aerozord]

Originally Posted by Marc v4.0

This is what I, and most others, are getting at when we say that Reddit is trash.

It isn't because sometimes people use the service to do unscrupulous or unpopular things or because of the ever-present downward shift in content you get the larger communities become.

It is solely because the maintainers of Reddit have done the complete bare MINIMUM (read: Nothing) to contain or subvert the waves of communities built around harassment, creeping on women, creeping on the under-aged, etc until those places attracted enough attention from OUTSIDE of reddit that their inaction called their revenue into question, and then they only half-way committed to any action at all. Before they were forced to action, they actively encouraged these communities by either looking the other way when they drove off dissenters or propping them up with promotion and defenses against infractions that they couldn't just ignore completely.

That is why people say reddit is a tire fire.

Sounds like 4chan. Keep in mind this is from someone that doesn't use 4chan or reddit

[Fenris]

Reddit is what happens when you put millions of people on one site. Lots of great communities and also lots of terrible ones. It's like any other social media platform. Trying to label it as one entity is dumb.

[Amake]

No, reddit is what happens when you put millions of people on one site and don't care what they do as long as they make you money. The problem isn't that they include the world's biggest white supremacist community, it's that they allow white supremacists a voice at all. It's a failure of responsible modding. Like I was saying.

Now you might say, no human admin structure can possibly manage a community larger than Tokyo. And then I say, yes, that's why reddit needs to disintegrate.