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Unread 04-29-2010, 02:25 AM   #1
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Default Pokemon Umbral Discussion 15: The PCs Think Their GM Is Smart. That's a Laugh.

Gardevoir Crosses Over Into Street Fighter



I think it works.

First off, I barely plan anything. To be honest, I've mostly just thrown Pokemon at you and created shit on the fly. The fact that some of this can actually come off as a challenge or something surprises even me.

Second, sure, the whole color coding things you want me to notice in orange will be very helpful, thank you.

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*random selfish desires he'll never shut up about until he gets 'em 'cause he's a whiny little bitch
I'm very likely going to create a wacky mission somewhere in the plot where the PCs enter this bizarro world where they actually get what the real people controlling them want them to have.

Would you settle for a weapon that turns defeated enemies into bromides? It'll be like Lunar 'n' shit!

This is Pokemon, not Disgaea.

And Renny will continue to live. In fact, out of all you bastards, he's the only one who deserves to live after all the goddamn bitching. I have half a mind to make Dinner roll a one on a Kamehamehameha Wave and everybody but Renny and the female NPCs get annihilated in the blast. Then Renny is crushed by the overwhelming task of having to use those female NPCs to repopulate the world.

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*a question that doesn't piss me off*
There's only a delay if there's enemies in the house, which may happen shortly. Fortunately, you can keep stat boosts and you won't have to do a one-for-one tradeoff.

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*something that made me smile
Two Pokemon using Follow Me on each other will crash the universe. It's just like successfully dividing by zero. In fact, I'll derail the whole RP into an entire new world if you really want to do that. You can forget Ruin Generals, you can forget Ruin Pokemon, you can forget PATCA and Faynoc and everything you knew about Pokemon Umbral. Just do it, see if I don't derail this whole RP into a bizarro world unlike the one I mentioned above. C'mon, it might be fun.

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*stuff about upgrade powers*
Yes for NPCs, no for enemies. The only reason I didn't do it that turn is because I'm retarded. That may not've been what you wanted to hear about it, but that's what I'm telling you because I don't lie.

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*hatin' on Pokebrids, now*
Whitney: "Why e'erbody always pickin' on me? I'm a large-breasted woman who looks like a Gardevoir cosplayer. What else do they want?"
Armored Bishoujo: "I think they want you back in the kitchen. Impact wants a sammich."

Seriously, you didn't get enough hot, steamy debate action so now you're bringing Pokebrids into it? Matthias went out to buy a length of rope, thanks to you! I think you should wait until you've seen what I'm going to be throwing at you until you decide that Pokebrids need to be downgraded.

EDIT 1: Fine, I'll accept the terms on Pokebrids and start numbering turns. Damn, when you're not whining about not getting the upgrade you wanted, you whine about balancing. Fuck balance. It wasn't there to begin with and it certainly isn't coming to a theatre near you anytime soon. We've all tried time and time again to bring balancing to Pokemon Umbral. Me? I honestly don't care anymore. Even if it was balanced, you guys would just find something else to whine about. It's silly when I come home and a discussion thread that was on page 5 when I left is now on page 12. What happened? You guys got bored and then started filling pages with what's fair and what's not fair about Pokemon Umbral right now. It's difficult enough when I have to do two-to-three hour posts in the RP thread, but I've already spent an hour and a half dealing with discussion thread hijinks alone.

Please, please, for the love of god please try to remember that this is Pokemon Umbral, not Pokemon the games, not Pokemon the movie, not Pokemon the trading card game, not Pokemon the cereal, and not Pokemon the flamethrower (the kids love it). I encourage creativity out of all of you because that justifies me throwing you in crazy-ass battles because I'm certain you'll think and fight your way out of them. That's why I approve a lot of what I see. I just kind of wish that everything that comes about isn't debated over five discussion threads because someone is calling foul.

EDIT Finale: So, what I'm going to do right now is go away. I'm sorry, but I won't be posting tonight. I've got other chores.

But I need your help with something. I want all this debating out of your systems right now. I regret to inform you that I cannot find a balance (that's what happens with having different classes like Slayer and Pokebrid. World of Warcraft couldn't do it, how the hell could I?), so I'm going to leave it to you. You may have already decided that you found it already. Good, I'm glad, and then we can proceed from there. But please, if there's anything further, I want it worked out before we proceed any further. As it is, I might as well just give Geminex, Menarker, and Dracorian joint GM Power and just kick back every night while they take the RP for themselves. This used to be fun to do. Now I dread getting off of work every afternoon. How ridiculous is that to feel like I don't want to come home from a hard day's work, knowing Pokemon Umbral is waiting the moment I jump on the Internet?

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Unread 04-29-2010, 02:33 AM   #2
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You realize that if Dormond keeps his attack boost, we can make Street Fighter Gardevoir into a very real thing?

Fine, let's not nerf Pokebrids.

Renny still has to die, though.
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Unread 04-29-2010, 02:35 AM   #3
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And Renny will continue to live. In fact, out of all you bastards, he's the only one who deserves to live after all the goddamn bitching. I have half a mind to make Dinner roll a one of a Kamehamehameha Wave and everybody but Renny and the female NPCs get annihilated in the blast. Then Renny is crushed by the overwhelming task of having to use those female NPCs to repopulate the world.
Yay!

^^

So, Dormond keeps his increased stats when he goes over to Impact's side. I guess that could be of use.

Anyhow, I guess we'll see what AB is planning to throw at us before requesting any nerfs. At least due to me sending out Dormond and using Lola for support, the issue which caused the last debate isn't an issue anymore since we have no one else to use Psych Up (on my side at least)


Also AB, we were talking about NPC pokebrids. We (or at least I) intended to let Matthias keep all his potency as he did before with no limit whatsoever.

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Unread 04-29-2010, 02:41 AM   #4
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Tell you what, AB. I'll offer you a deal.

Renny dies, forever, and I will never ask for anything ever again.

This is a special one-time offer! If you turn it down, I will never shut up.
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Unread 04-29-2010, 02:46 AM   #5
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I think AB should seriously consider that Bizzaro World, but have a "mortal choice" in Pierce's case...

Option 1: He has all the girls that he could possibly want... but he has to share them all with Renny, who is never more than a minute away. (If he tries to kill Renny, something bad would happen)

Option 2: No girls, no Renny.

Anyhow, thanks for your patience AB! I know that we're a bunch of nutcases sometimes, but I think that's part of the fun, and at least we're mostly mature about the entire debates (At least I think of everyone being mature). Personally, I love upgrades and updates (and I think one of the reasons for the arguments was that they are comparing my update with themselves as they are now just because my sidequest was first, instead of comparing it to what they would end up recieving in due time.)

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Unread 04-29-2010, 02:50 AM   #6
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Yes for NPCs, no for enemies. The only reason I didn't do it that turn is because I'm retarded. That may not've been what you wanted to hear about it, but that's what I'm telling you because I don't lie.
Frankly I don't remember what I asked about here but I'm pretty sure I was just asking.

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Option 2: No girls, no Renny.
Pierce would seriously consider this. I mean, sure, it involves entering into a long-term relationship with his right hand. But then again... no Renny.

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(and I think one of the reasons for the arguments and that they are comparing my update with themselves as they are now just because my sidequest was first, instead of comparing it to what they would end up recieving in due time.)
What?
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Unread 04-29-2010, 02:54 AM   #7
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I think the question was about whether the NPCs had access to the upgrades that we do. Like whether NPC trainers like Dominic and Shannon had access to Focus and Divide or if Rayleen had access to Sweep like Impact does. So according to AB, NPCs on our side can have all the upgrades we do, but our foes don't.
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Unread 04-29-2010, 02:54 AM   #8
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Please, please, for the love of god please try to remember that this is Pokemon Umbral, not Pokemon the games, not Pokemon the movie, not Pokemon the trading card game, not Pokemon the cereal, and not Pokemon the flamethrower (the kids love it). I encourage creativity out of all of you because that justifies me throwing you in crazy-ass battles because I'm certain you'll think and fight your way out of them. That's why I approve a lot of what I see. I just kind of wish that everything that comes about isn't debated over five discussion threads because someone is calling foul.
Well, we manage to debate more or less everything without having to take it to you. The psych-up thing was just a minor thing.
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Though have we reached a conclusion on that now? Is everyone ok with half-power? I don't think we need to nerf pokebrids, we just need to slightly nerf one move and we'll be fine. For now. I'll even drop my further criticism of Renny's breeder. Yes, I promised that before, but none of you took me up on it.

And why does Drac hate Renny so? Jealous of Lola?
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No, we'll nerf the NPC 'Brids. I want balance as much as the rest of you wackos. It's just so hard with multiple classes (and we only have four! [and one of them isn't be used right now!]).

You do realize that when Renny dies, he'll become the first PC demon, right? Yes, there's a real hell where people in this insane world are supposed to go, but Fujiko has plans for that one. She likes really cute boys. Don't ask.

And do you know how difficult it would be to arrange a situation where all the female characters san Charlotte exit the scene with Renny forever? I...somehow I think I can make it happen, but...

It's times like these that make me understand why people smoke and drink and fuck. For a 28 year old, I don't do any of those three things (I game and game and game instead).

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Unread 04-29-2010, 02:59 AM   #10
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You do realize that when Renny dies, he'll become the first PC demon, right?
FUCK YOU, DRAC, RENNY LIVES!

We can tie him up, though.

And I really don't think we need to nerf the pokebrids. What is it with you guys and your balancing, it's like an OCD. Just let them be. Live and let live.
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Then make me responsible for it. I'll give you...
*evil grin*
*glasses flash*
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