OH GOD BIOWARE WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE

[Marc v4.0]

Originally Posted by "Half Assed" Karesh

Are you trying to suggest a creature of that size is moving slowly as it streams across the landscape at the speed of a goddamn bullet train?
What the fuck ever for the mass. Fast is fast. That maw is moving fast enough to trigger a kinetic barrier reaction.

Originally Posted by "Me, MINUTES AGO

Something your size attacking you in a, for the mass, slow manner

It is almost as if I covered that, for the scale of the entities involved, the speed is relative.


Yes, I am suggesting that a Kinetic Shield designed to stop rounds of fire moving incomparably faster while being much smaller cannot stop a creature or object of comparable size moving at, FOR THE SCALE, a much much much slower speed.

Because the lore already said that they aren't designed to do that

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

...That has to be about the most ludicrous retcon / additional info dump in order to justify a Thresher Maw taking a Reaper on.
Next there will be a granddaddy of all Geth Colossi and it will be nearly as large as a Reaper and capable of taking it on

They already dumped a horse load of extra lore and tech data to justify ~LOLNOTAMMO~ so no huge surprise?

[Fifthfiend]

I'm just popping in to note that Stefan was in fact correct about ad hominems

EDIT: like

"I don't give a single floating fuck about sales numbers, you smug self-assured little shitwagon."

Insult!

"I don't give a single floating fuck about sales numbers, because you are a smug self-assured little shitwagon."

Ad hominem!

An easily glossed-over, but important distinction!

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Marc v4.0

It is almost as if I covered that, for the scale of the entities involved, the speed is relative.


Yes, I am suggesting that a Kinetic Shield designed to stop rounds of fire moving incomparably faster while being much smaller cannot stop a creature or object of comparable size moving at, FOR THE SCALE, a much much much slower speed.

Because the lore already said that they aren't designed to do that

The personal kinetic barriers of individual soldiers aren't designed to block, say, a punch. But the large scale kinetic barriers of ships have to do stuff like deflect derelict debris in space, projectiles and other things. If I remember right, they're set to reject objects moving at certain speeds because otherwise you'd have a hell of a time interacting with things.

They also to my memory can somehow help you to resist fire.

[Solid Snake]

Fucking Fifth's always gotta fucking correct me because he's a smug self-assured...
Well guess what Betty Elms

I'll ad hominem you next
And it will be more than an insult!!!

[Marc v4.0]

Originally Posted by "Half Assed" Karesh

The personal kinetic barriers of individual soldiers aren't designed to block, say, a punch. But the large scale kinetic barriers of ships have to do stuff like deflect derelict debris in space, projectiles and other things.

They also to my memory can somehow help you to resist fire.

Space debris is moving pretty fucking fast, actually.

The ship is also moving pretty fast when it hits the debris as well.

Yet ships can still slam into each other...

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Marc v4.0

Space debris is moving pretty fucking fast, actually.

The ship is also moving pretty fast when it hits the debris as well.

Yet ships can still slam into each other...

When did ships slam into each other? I'd be willing to bet in those circumstances there was already significant damage to both ships, since either ship would be trying their best to not crash into another ship.


Also yes ships are moving pretty fast and so are the pieces of debris but not nearly as fast as we're apparently talking about, because space warfare in Mass Effect is making use of the same methods of FTL travel that the ships use. The negative or positive charges of Eezo changing the mass of an object to allow it to accelerate to ludicrous speeds. If a Kinetic Barrier only responds to stuff moving at a certain rate, it would need to be on the same scale as the individual soldiers.

[Marc v4.0]

Originally Posted by "Half Assed" Karesh

When did ships slam into each other? I'd be willing to bet in those circumstances there was already significant damage to both ships, since either ship would be trying their best to not crash into another ship.

I recall it was a Cerberus Network news blurb, or a news cast of some sort.

If a Kinetic Barrier only responds to stuff moving at a certain rate,

Unless I am recalling the entry on Barriers in ME1 wrong, that is exactly what they do. They explained it in the context of why your chair doesn't go flying out from under you.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Marc v4.0

Unless I am recalling the entry on Barriers in ME1 wrong, that is exactly what they do. They explained it in the context of why your chair doesn't go flying out from under you.

I recall the entry as explaining that they "could" be set to only respond at certain speeds. With differing uses of the barriers needing different settings.

If an object travels above a certain speed, the reflex is activated and the object is repulsed.

[Marc v4.0]

I would imagine it to be very difficult to keep that sort of thing set to "EVERYTHING FUCK OFF" while keeping yourself up in a planet's gravity well and shooting and stomping around. An Impractical tactic all around.

Perhaps the Reaper didn't expect a huge fucking devil worm to up and fucking tackle it? They are confident that nothing can stop them because they kept tight control of technologic progression so they would never actually face an unexpected challenge, and arrogance coupled with a cycle that lets all sorts of crazy shit evolve in the ether makes for giant worms tackling space chiggers.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by Marc v4.0

I would imagine it to be very difficult to keep that sort of thing set to "EVERYTHING FUCK OFF" while keeping yourself up in a planet's gravity well and shooting and stomping around. An Impractical tactic all around.

Perhaps the Reaper didn't expect a huge fucking devil worm to up and fucking tackle it? They are confident that nothing can stop them because they kept tight control of technologic progression so they would never actually face an unexpected challenge, and arrogance coupled with a cycle that lets all sorts of crazy shit evolve in the ether makes for giant worms tackling space chiggers.

Hmm...
Alright, I'll buy it.