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Unread 10-07-2016, 08:22 PM   #281
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Serious thought, are these two candidates really that horrible? Yes, but thats not what I'm getting at. Are they especially horrible. Is it we happened to get two bad ones or are they all horrible and we as a society have reached a point we can see it now? Could also be, not that we are able to see it, but so hate driven we will dig for any scrap we can to justify it. I mean I'm sure if you cherry picked the last ten years of my phone calls, social media posts, texts, emails, ect I'd come off as a monster too. On this forum alone I'm sure there is enough content to make any group hate me.
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Unread 10-07-2016, 11:19 PM   #282
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Serious thought, are these two candidates really that horrible? Yes, but thats not what I'm getting at. Are they especially horrible. Is it we happened to get two bad ones or are they all horrible and we as a society have reached a point we can see it now? Could also be, not that we are able to see it, but so hate driven we will dig for any scrap we can to justify it. I mean I'm sure if you cherry picked the last ten years of my phone calls, social media posts, texts, emails, ect I'd come off as a monster too. On this forum alone I'm sure there is enough content to make any group hate me.
...What terrible timing you have.
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Unread 10-08-2016, 08:38 AM   #283
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If Donald were a teenager or mid twenties man saying those things and then a decade passed I'd say "Yeah I can see how you'd grow out of that."
But he's seventy. He was sixty when he said it.

He's suggesting his sixty year old self wasn't mature enough to not say this shit.
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Unread 10-08-2016, 06:13 PM   #284
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I'm not really sure what the people who are acting surprised expected.
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Unread 10-08-2016, 08:01 PM   #285
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If Donald were a teenager or mid twenties man saying those things and then a decade passed I'd say "Yeah I can see how you'd grow out of that."
I'd agree with your sentiment if it was just an audio recording of Donald Drumpf saying things twenty-something year old Dudebros would actually say in a locker-room, which might, at most, involve complimenting or criticizing physical appearances or fantasizing about consensual sexual activities with an attractive woman. That kind of behavior is pretty common for folks of both genders and all sexualities to partake in, but the implicit consensual nature of the activity -- and the recognition that the fantasy itself is far-fetched -- are crucial points.

Instead, Donald Drumpf was recorded confessing to utilizing his fame as a mechanism to sexually assault women. And he's not even in some far-off fantasy world of his imagination, he's confessing to something he's actually done in the real world.
Sexual assault is NOT locker-room banter, and it's insulting to men to pretend that men behave this way behind closed doors.
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Unread 10-08-2016, 11:35 PM   #286
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If Donald were a teenager or mid twenties man saying those things and then a decade passed I'd say "Yeah I can see how you'd grow out of that."
But he's seventy. He was sixty when he said it.

He's suggesting his sixty year old self wasn't mature enough to not say this shit.
fair point. I mean I don't know how I'd act in thirty years so I try not to speak as if I would. Though outside of special circumstances even now I refrain if simply to protect the privacy of the person I was with. So yea, reasonable to expect someone at that age should simply know better.
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...It seriously looks like tonight's debate is going to play out like an episode of Jerry Springer.
Holy fuck, what has happened to this universe we live in
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Unread 10-09-2016, 08:37 PM   #288
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Someone put up a meme to this effect on Facebook, but Donald Trump is basically what happens when someone speaks entirely in run-on sentences.
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Unread 10-09-2016, 09:06 PM   #289
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...It seriously looks like tonight's debate is going to play out like an episode of Jerry Springer.
Holy fuck, what has happened to this universe we live in
I dont even bother watching, gave up bothering years ago, but I'm betting its basically devolving into putting down the opponent over making actual points.
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I just can't believe how Donald Trump gets away with so little substance and the pundits still claim he 'won' or 'tied' because all his gibberish sounded like something when it was really nothing at all.
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