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Unread 05-25-2004, 09:28 AM   #91
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Yeah, I agree to that point. I don't want to abolish something which gives users a little bit of fun, I just think a little more control is needed to keep them on form. Paragraphs of how you kill your enemy with your peanutbutterthrowingmachine for example would be better than 'I kill you with my thing lololololllol.' If I perhaps get a system working whereas I make a basis for these type of roleplays and then people PM me asking if it would be suitable. Then we can work together to make sure things don't get out of hand.

Perhaps friendly warnings to the certain users who keep with persistant spam. I'm not about to ban anyone through a little bit of fun. I just won't allow an ocean of spam in this forum.
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Unread 05-25-2004, 11:28 AM   #92
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Perhaps you can make a requirement to mark the title with such things as 'godmod' or such, but personally, I think it would be much, much easier if one instead created sub-forums to separate god-modding and the serious roleplaying. The roleplaying forum, as one can see on the index, is the largest one in the whole board, and I must wonder if this is because of the profolic roleplay or the spammy doom (leaning towards the second, seeing as how quickly Arena 3 went on its way). As said, I believe that I will propose the creation of sub-forums for this organization. Anything that doesn't fit in one could be moved to the other.

Many boards have a specific forum just for people to spam in, if they wish. Perhaps forums like that can be used here.
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Unread 05-25-2004, 11:30 AM   #93
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This isn't my forum to make subforums. That would be Brian's job and he's got enough to deal with right now. These forums weren't even that widely used in the past, hence why Brian often plugs Avariel so that many of the roleplayers can go there instead. Thus, subforums are not an option.
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No, that would lead to a Trash Bin forum, and the mods have been against the creation of that for a long time. This "Trash Bin" would hold all the garbage that doesn't fit in any other forum, but the problem there is, it would lead to an influx of spammers who take refuge in the Trash Bin, but abandon the rest of the forum for it's rules. The mods don't want that kind of endless post fest because of memory and the server, plus they don't want the kind of people that it would attract.
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I can see why such a Trash Bin forum would be ill looked upon, but the other way of prevent such things is to go on a deadly streak of bannings and deletings. I don't believe anyone wants to do something like that, but I suppose that it would have to be necessary after a while. The players obviously do not want to leave something that they have been allowed before, and I understand it myself, as it is a place for fun... for themselves, if not others.
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Unread 05-25-2004, 11:50 AM   #96
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I'm not ASKING them to leave it. If anything I'm asking them to consider other options. Have I not been explaining myself over and over again? I tire of the spam. I tire of the reports. I tire of the sheer fact that people cannot follow simple rules. I'm willing to work with the people of these roleplays in order for them to still continue and for them to be able to play within them, but not piss off other users in the process.

8bit is not a place for spam. As has been mentioned by ALL mods. This forum is no different from the others.
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Aye, but I do not talk of leaving the thread literally, but leaving what it was. Compromises usually bring about a change of rules that deviate it from the original experience, and it is this needed change plus the zealism of those who wants it the old way that makes these troubles. It is indeed a noble thing to try to make a forum like this work, to prevent rages and make everyone happy, but I have been a moderator a time or two before, and sometimes one just have to let it go. Sometimes, keeping the peace just doesn't work.

At times, people just want to post many times to feel important - one's post count is a lot more important to oneself than others may think so. People actually do judge, and I have seen it myself, others, based on their post count. This is one of the many reasons why, at times, you see a page on the forum filled by 'Last post by' the same exact person. Sometimes people just feel like posting, and whether it be good or bad, they continue to post to their heart's content. Spam is a trouble for bandwidth and interaction alike, but I have seen that surpression doesn't always work to destroy spam.
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So wait, now your just saying to not change anything and let it go back to the way it was? That will solve nothing, the thread will be just as spammy, the complaints will keep coming, and nothing will get any better, but only worse. I've been a moderator as well, and that approach basically says, "I may be the Moderator, here to try and keep the peace, but I just don't care anymore, so do whatever." The answer to a problem isn't to just go away from the problem, you need to deal with it. If you leave it alone, it will only fester and get worse. "A stich in time saves nine" so they say.
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Actually, I meant, by 'sometimes keeping the peace' doesn't work, that at times, you'll have to drop the hammer and dispense some indiscriminate justice. *ducks*

Basically, at times, mass bannings and removal is necessary, no matter how brutal it may be.
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Unread 05-25-2004, 12:08 PM   #100
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(Shiney speaking) The debate is over. RaiRai has given alternatives. Plenty of them.

Post counts don't matter. If a poster thinks they are better because of a post count, it's very easy to cut them down by deleting their spam topics. I have a half mind to outright delete the old calvinball threads and let it be finished. Wipe it from the face of nuklearpower.

Lemme ask something. How many of you would have the gall to suggest 'leave us alone' or 'how bout you just let us remake it, but slightly differently' to Kurosen, or Mashirosen? Viper? Me? How many of you would argue Mash to her face, ignore her alternatives, and just keep needling expecting to get your way? Anyone? Quit taking advantage of RaiRai's kindness and fucking get over it. She has told you what you can do with the thread. Just don't do it here. The end.
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