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Unread 10-26-2012, 03:43 PM   #511
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Yeah nothing against you or your words, they just brought it to mind.
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Unread 10-26-2012, 11:30 PM   #512
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The thing is, I agree with Murdock. Not on what he actually said, but what I'm sure he meant,
Suddenly, I realize that this phrase is probably what keeps so many modern Republican constituents loyal to the party.
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Unread 10-27-2012, 10:19 AM   #513
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My recent post in the rape culture thread is relevant to what Murdock said. For lack of a better phrase, Murdock believes a rapist should have more control over a woman's body than the woman does.
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Originally Posted by Robert A. Heinlein Post-Script to "Revolt in 2100"
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"...Nevertheless this business of legislating religious beliefs into law has never been more than sporadically successful in this country-Sunday closing laws here and there, birth control legislation in spots, the Prohibition experiment, temporary enclaves of theocracy such as a Voliva's Zion, Smith's Nauvoo, a few others. The country is split up into such a variety of variety of faiths and sects that a degree of of uneasy tolerance now exists from expedient compromise; the minorities constitute a majority of opposition against each other.

Could it be otherewise here? Could any one sect obtain a working majority at the the polls and take over the country? Perhaps not - but a combination of dynamic evangelist. television, enough money, and modern techniques of advertising and propaganda might make Billy Sunday's efforts look like a corner store compared to Sears Roebuck. Throw in a depression for good measure, promise a material heaven here on add a dash of anti-Semitism, anti-Catholicism, anti-Negroism, and a good large dose of anti-"furriners" in general and anti-intellectuals here at home and the result might be something quite frightening-particularly when one recalls our voting system is such that a minority distributed as pluralities in enough states can constitute a working majority in Washington..."
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Unread 10-29-2012, 12:42 PM   #515
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and this was written in '52?
and no one bought it then?

that's it, I'm moving to canada. i can't stand 'merkuh and the idiots that run it, nor the idiots that elect those idiots.
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Unread 10-30-2012, 06:04 PM   #516
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So I guess the GOP paid this guy to spread panic and fear through disinformation taking advantage of the killer storm presently ravaging the country, in order to worsen the damage which would reflect badly on the sitting president?

Or to put it another way, they tried to get as many people as possible killed in this disaster so that their political opponents the Democratic party would look bad?

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Unread 11-01-2012, 02:10 PM   #517
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this is the anti-human party we're talking about
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this is the anti-human party we're talking about
I would prefer to refer to them as the Anti-Existence Party.
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In the event November’s presidential election is a squeaker, Mitt Romney may be down two or more Electoral College votes from members of his own party.

Because of the archaic voting system used in the United States, voters do not actually vote for a candidate, but for a slate of state electors who are pledged to vote for that candidate if he or she wins the state. In most states, these electors are not legally required to vote for the candidate who won the state. In fact, there have been 87 instances in which an elector refused to vote for the presidential or vice-presidential candidate he or she was supposed to.

Two supporters of Ron Paul have said publicly they may not vote for Romney in the Electoral College in December. They, and others, have expressed frustration with party leaders over what they said were heavy-handed attempts throughout the campaign and the convention to deny Paul the nomination.

The two Paul supporters considering not voting for Romney are Ken Eastman of Nevada and Billie Zimmerman of Texas.

In addition, another Nevada elector, Ken Searles, says he may vote for Paul as a protest, but only if his vote doesn’t change the outcome of the election. And Kathleen Miller of Alaska plans to vote for Romney but said she might change her mind if GOP leaders engage in more “shenanigans.”

One defector, Melinda Wadsley from Iowa, resigned rather than vote for Romney. “They’ve never given Ron Paul a fair shot, and I’m disgusted with that. I’d like to show them how disgusted I am,” Wadsley told the Associated Press.

The last time a Republican elector switched his vote was 1976, when Mike Padden of Washington voted for Ronald Reagan instead for Gerald Ford.

-Noel Brinkerhoff, David Wallechinsky
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The polls are showing a dead heat between President Barack Obama and Gov. Mitt Romney. But it's conceivable that neither will take office in January. Here's a possible scenario — a nightmare for the Democrats, and for conservative Republicans a dream come true.

It's Jan. 20, 2013. Outgoing President Obama sits in the limousine on the way to the Capitol. To his right is incoming acting President Paul Ryan.

What? How did this happen? And what's this business about "acting president?"

It started with the Electoral College. The election was close, as everyone knew it would be. President Obama got 253 electoral votes by carrying the Democratic base — the District of Columbia and 19 states that had gone for Gore, Kerry and Obama. He also took New Mexico (5 votes) and Colorado (9 votes), bringing him to 267 — heartbreakingly short of the 270 needed for victory. It looked like Mitt Romney had won with 29 states and 271 electoral votes, one more than he needed.

But, on Dec. 17 when electors cast their votes, three Republican electors — one in Texas, Nevada and Iowa — did what they had told a reporter in September that they planned to do: They voted for the candidate to whom their hearts truly belonged: Rep. Ron Paul. No amount of persuading could get them to back down. The result: Romney 268 electoral votes, Obama: 267 and Paul: 3. No majority. No president-elect.

Under the 12th Amendment to the Constitution, if no one gets an electoral vote majority, the House of Representatives chooses the president from among the top three contenders. Each state gets one vote, and election requires a majority of states: 26 votes.

In the House elected in 2010, the GOP held a majority of seats from 33 of the 50 states, the Democrats had just 16, and one, Minnesota, was tied. But in the 2012 election the GOP lost several seats even though it kept control of the House. The Democrats gained in Colorado, Montana, Nevada and West Virginia, giving them "control" of 20 states, and also picked up one seat each in Arizona, Arkansas, Kentucky, New Hampshire and Wisconsin, bringing those states to a tie along with Minnesota. So the Republicans now controlled just 24 states.

The new Congress convened in January and officially counted the electoral votes for president and vice president. No presidential candidate had a majority, of course, but the three faithless Republican electors had joined the other 268 in voting for Paul Ryan for vice president, giving him the 271 votes he needed to defeat Joe Biden and become vice president-elect.

Meanwhile the House of Representatives set about balloting for president from among the three contenders, Romney, Obama and Paul. On ballot after ballot, 20 "Democratic" states voted for Obama and 24 "Republican" states voted for Romney. The six tied states deadlocked and cast no vote. Jan. 20 was approaching and, it seemed, there would soon be no president.

But, believe it or not, the 20th Amendment to the Constitution envisions such a possibility. It says, "If a president shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the president elect shall have failed to qualify, then the vice president elect shall act as president until a president shall have qualified." In other words, because the House couldn't break the deadlock by Jan. 20, Vice President-elect Paul Ryan would become acting president.

This is where we are on Inauguration Day. President Obama and the soon-to-be acting president ride down Pennsylvania Avenue together, alight from the limousine and approach the platform where Chief Justice John Roberts administers the oath of office. Ryan gives an inaugural address focused on the wonders of our Constitution, the beauties of the marketplace and the need for a rebirth of American freedom. Barack Obama goes back to Chicago. The House keeps balloting but finally gives up.

And the three Ron Paul electors content themselves with the thought that the man closer to their philosophy than Mitt Romney ever really was is now in the White House, having completed the most astonishing rise in the history of national politics.

Likely? No. Possible? We'll have to wait and see.

Ronald Schurin is an associate professor in residence in the Department of Political Science at the University of Connecticut.
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"...Nevertheless this business of legislating religious beliefs into law has never been more than sporadically successful in this country-Sunday closing laws here and there, birth control legislation in spots, the Prohibition experiment, temporary enclaves of theocracy such as a Voliva's Zion, Smith's Nauvoo, a few others. The country is split up into such a variety of variety of faiths and sects that a degree of of uneasy tolerance now exists from expedient compromise; the minorities constitute a majority of opposition against each other.

Could it be otherewise here? Could any one sect obtain a working majority at the the polls and take over the country? Perhaps not - but a combination of dynamic evangelist. television, enough money, and modern techniques of advertising and propaganda might make Billy Sunday's efforts look like a corner store compared to Sears Roebuck. Throw in a depression for good measure, promise a material heaven here on add a dash of anti-Semitism, anti-Catholicism, anti-Negroism, and a good large dose of anti-"furriners" in general and anti-intellectuals here at home and the result might be something quite frightening-particularly when one recalls our voting system is such that a minority distributed as pluralities in enough states can constitute a working majority in Washington..."
Figured this was relevant when I found it.
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Unread 11-05-2012, 10:30 PM   #520
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The polls are showing a dead heat between President Barack Obama and Gov. Mitt Romney.
FiveThirtyEight strenuously disagrees.

As for the rest of the second section, utter hogwash. The likelihood of electoral shenanigans on that level are inconceivably small.
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