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Krylo · 06-17-2006, 10:47 AM

Listen. Maybe you didn't hear me the first time.

He cut through an entire sky scraper with one swing.

Now, sure, maybe he can't cut through Logan's bones, but do you have any goddamn idea how much FORCE that is?

We're talking smash him into the ground, leaving a crater where he is, and instantly liquifying all his organs from the sudden start and stop of movement. His internal organs would, in other words, smash against his own indestructible skeleton destroying them.

Every part of Logan is destroyed BUT his bones.

Fuck, with that much sheer force, even Adamantium would be likely to give. NOTHING is indestructible, no matter what the comics tell you. Molecular bonds come in different strengths, but there's no infinity bond strength that can never be broken with no amount of force.

But hey, even if there is, Logan is still fucked, so it doesn't matter.

Plus, that's just 'humiliating defeat' as in, not using magic.

The kid can also shoot fireballs (anyone want to take beats on whether wolverine can survive having his flesh melted off), call lightning bolts from the sky (how many of those before his organs are permanently destroyed?) shoot balls of magical ice (Logansicles anyone?), create massive gravity wells (perhaps the sheer force of his attacks weren't enough--so lets just stick Logan in about one hundred times earth's gravity and see how long it takes for his body to give out), and a bunch of other stuff I don't feel like looking up.

Seriously, you've obviously not played the games, or you'd not say anything resembling Sora not being able to beat Wolverine (who is given way more credit than he deserves, napalm could beat Wolverine, and so could some military rifle rounds, that are made specifically to shatter and ricochet about inside the body, destroying organs--he's not as invulnerable as people think.).

Fifthfiend · 06-17-2006, 11:29 AM

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napalm could beat Wolverine, and so could some military rifle rounds, that are made specifically to shatter and ricochet about inside the body, destroying organs--he's not as invulnerable as people think.

Hey, he beat Lobo, didn't he?

Chipper173 · 06-17-2006, 01:58 PM

Yeah, I know you're right. I just don't like how ludicrously powerful he became in 2, so I'm not letting him take down freaking Batman, Wolverine and Spider-Man, three of the greatest superheroes ever bar none, without a fight.

I mean, I like Sora and all, but come on.

EDIT: I guess I should add that when I think of hypothetical fights, I tend to level the playing field for everyone by having them all follow real-world physics. Example: Sora's got a big enough health meter to get impaled on Wolverine's claws, but in Wolverine's world, that'd be enough to kill most people. Since Marvel is closer to real life, I tend to think in terms of how their world works for the fight.

Roy_D_Mylote · 06-17-2006, 03:43 PM

Wolverine can and has survived having his flesh burnt off. I direct you to Austen's (albeit crappy) Holy War saga, issue 424. Where his flesh got burnt off.

Sora probably wouldn't be able to even hit Spider-Man.

IHateMakingNames · 06-17-2006, 03:53 PM

Sora would easily destroy Wolverine, Spiderman, and Batman.

It's hard to explain why he wins because it's just to easy for him to, I can't image how you can believe he wouldn't. Plus krylo already explained why he easily wins, yet you are still resisting, but without any reasons why (Except that those three are famous comic book characters).

So, explain why you think Sora wouldn't win.

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Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Sora probably wouldn't be able to even hit Spider-Man.

Go into details with that, because a single thunder could at least disable Spiderman, and it wouldn't miss.

Roy_D_Mylote · 06-17-2006, 04:19 PM

Okay, point there, but if we're talkin' humilating defeat (which is the only point anyone could argue) with keyblade only, Spider-Man could dodge the swing. He's got the spider-sense and is fast. If Sora can use his magic (i.e. not a humiliating defeat) then my favorite characters are gonna die.

h4x.m4g3 · 06-17-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Okay, point there, but if we're talkin' humilating defeat (which is the only point anyone could argue) with keyblade only, Spider-Man could dodge the swing. He's got the spider-sense and is fast.

Yes but you must remember, how many times has Spider-man gotten hit even with his spider sense and speed. Now compare those enemies to Sora.

In short: Spiderman gets beat to a bloody pulp.

IHateMakingNames · 06-17-2006, 04:22 PM

Even without magic Sora still easily wins.

I've only seen the Spiderman cartoons (The good ones), and every time his spider senses kicked it, it just meant he was about to be hit. Then he was hit. Also, if it actually worked, it would only work for a surprise attack, which this fight wouldn't have.

Sora is faster than Spiderman, since he dodges lasers. Plus he's much stronger.

The only way Spiderman could not be killed by the keyblade is if the fight takes place in a large building that has a ceiling at least 50 ft. high, so Sora can't just up to it. The building also have to be invunerable, since Sora could destroy it so Spiderman has no where to hide.

Edit - Of course, Sora does have some sort of flight ability, since for a few bosses you have to dodge their attacks in mid air, and he goes higher and higher.

Roy_D_Mylote · 06-17-2006, 04:35 PM

Fine. Fine, dammit. Spider-Man loses. But in my head he'll always be the winner.

Premmy · 06-17-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy_D_Mylote

Fine. Fine, dammit. Spider-Man loses. But in my head he'll always be the winner.

See what you did you bastards? you made two grown men cry. I hope you're proud of yourselves. Spideys sense is much more powerful than people give it credit for. it's the same as batman's strength, it changes depending on how"dramatic" the situation is but I have seen him, repeatedly and casually, dodge rounds from a gatling gun.
Now for the "you stole my face!" fight
Venom .v. Ultimate venom .v. Scorpion Venom .v. Sybiote Spidey
Let's give spidey proper control of the venom suit for this battle.

06-17-2006, 10:47 AM	#291
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Listen. Maybe you didn't hear me the first time. He cut through an entire sky scraper with one swing. Now, sure, maybe he can't cut through Logan's bones, but do you have any goddamn idea how much FORCE that is? We're talking smash him into the ground, leaving a crater where he is, and instantly liquifying all his organs from the sudden start and stop of movement. His internal organs would, in other words, smash against his own indestructible skeleton destroying them. Every part of Logan is destroyed BUT his bones. Fuck, with that much sheer force, even Adamantium would be likely to give. NOTHING is indestructible, no matter what the comics tell you. Molecular bonds come in different strengths, but there's no infinity bond strength that can never be broken with no amount of force. But hey, even if there is, Logan is still fucked, so it doesn't matter. Plus, that's just 'humiliating defeat' as in, not using magic. The kid can also shoot fireballs (anyone want to take beats on whether wolverine can survive having his flesh melted off), call lightning bolts from the sky (how many of those before his organs are permanently destroyed?) shoot balls of magical ice (Logansicles anyone?), create massive gravity wells (perhaps the sheer force of his attacks weren't enough--so lets just stick Logan in about one hundred times earth's gravity and see how long it takes for his body to give out), and a bunch of other stuff I don't feel like looking up. Seriously, you've obviously not played the games, or you'd not say anything resembling Sora not being able to beat Wolverine (who is given way more credit than he deserves, napalm could beat Wolverine, and so could some military rifle rounds, that are made specifically to shatter and ricochet about inside the body, destroying organs--he's not as invulnerable as people think.). __________________ I am very tired.

06-17-2006, 01:58 PM	#293
Chipper173 Grandma threw away my animes Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hang a left at the deli. Posts: 858	Yeah, I know you're right. I just don't like how ludicrously powerful he became in 2, so I'm not letting him take down freaking Batman, Wolverine and Spider-Man, three of the greatest superheroes ever bar none, without a fight. I mean, I like Sora and all, but come on. EDIT: I guess I should add that when I think of hypothetical fights, I tend to level the playing field for everyone by having them all follow real-world physics. Example: Sora's got a big enough health meter to get impaled on Wolverine's claws, but in Wolverine's world, that'd be enough to kill most people. Since Marvel is closer to real life, I tend to think in terms of how their world works for the fight. Last edited by Chipper173; 06-17-2006 at 02:02 PM.

06-17-2006, 03:43 PM	#294
Roy_D_Mylote Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The sky. Posts: 1,030	Wolverine can and has survived having his flesh burnt off. I direct you to Austen's (albeit crappy) Holy War saga, issue 424. Where his flesh got burnt off. Sora probably wouldn't be able to even hit Spider-Man. __________________ I hate roleclaims.

06-17-2006, 04:19 PM	#296
Roy_D_Mylote Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The sky. Posts: 1,030	Okay, point there, but if we're talkin' humilating defeat (which is the only point anyone could argue) with keyblade only, Spider-Man could dodge the swing. He's got the spider-sense and is fast. If Sora can use his magic (i.e. not a humiliating defeat) then my favorite characters are gonna die. __________________ I hate roleclaims.

06-17-2006, 04:22 PM	#298
IHateMakingNames Awwwwh Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 12,119	Even without magic Sora still easily wins. I've only seen the Spiderman cartoons (The good ones), and every time his spider senses kicked it, it just meant he was about to be hit. Then he was hit. Also, if it actually worked, it would only work for a surprise attack, which this fight wouldn't have. Sora is faster than Spiderman, since he dodges lasers. Plus he's much stronger. The only way Spiderman could not be killed by the keyblade is if the fight takes place in a large building that has a ceiling at least 50 ft. high, so Sora can't just up to it. The building also have to be invunerable, since Sora could destroy it so Spiderman has no where to hide. Edit - Of course, Sora does have some sort of flight ability, since for a few bosses you have to dodge their attacks in mid air, and he goes higher and higher. __________________ "If I'm reincarnated, I want to be Musashi again!" - Musashi, Brave Fencer Musashi Last edited by IHateMakingNames; 06-17-2006 at 04:25 PM.

06-17-2006, 04:35 PM	#299
Roy_D_Mylote Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The sky. Posts: 1,030	Fine. Fine, dammit. Spider-Man loses. But in my head he'll always be the winner. __________________ I hate roleclaims.