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Unread 08-14-2006, 06:24 PM   #51
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Actually, I think telling them not to steal, or not to hire thieves, is probably well within our right as consumers. Beyond that, yeah, they certainly deserve to have their ideas put into action before people go around dismissing then as totally useless.
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Unread 08-14-2006, 06:41 PM   #52
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I've been under the impression that many of the changes to airport security have been caused by Mandates and laws issued from the government. Can someone please find a source that says one way or the other? From what I've heard from speeches on television on the news, Bush has implied that his administration made the changes to protect us.

anything sourced from a reliable source online will be accepted as proof either way, as I'm confused now.
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Unread 08-14-2006, 06:51 PM   #53
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Know what just occured to me? Is that with the terrorists thinking up all these items that will become bombs, maybe blowing stuff up isn't the goal. Maybe the goal is to totally change how America is run.
There was a comedian who said that the shoe bomber was probably just in a bet with his terrorist buddies that he could make everyone take their shoes off in airports. He also said to look for an underwear bomber in the future :P.

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Compare America and, say, any given Middle Eastern country. Which one is better?
Actually Turkey and Kuwait are very nice places. Gas in Kuwait is $0.78 per gallon and the government is doing so well financially that they gave every Kuwaiti citizen 200 Dinars ($690 US). And Saudi Arabia is fantastic during hajj.

As par airport security, I think it should be broadened to a more international scale. But some aspects of it should be relaxed a bit. The worst is the profiling that goes down. On a flight chain from Grand Rapids, Michigan to Cairns, Australia I went through 8 airports total. I had a "random" search at 6 out of the 8 airports. Why? Because I'm Arab and the other airports were in Sydney and Cairns. At every airport involving America I had my bag searched, my cameras wiped down for explosive residue, and searched by a security guard.

The profiling needs to stop.
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Unread 08-14-2006, 06:57 PM   #54
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Actually Turkey and Kuwait are very nice places. Gas in Kuwait is $0.78 per gallon and the government is doing so well financially that they gave every Kuwaiti citizen 200 Dinars ($690 US). And Saudi Arabia is fantastic during hajj.
Can I just stop to say, Fucking wow?
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Unread 08-14-2006, 09:03 PM   #55
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I accompanied my uncle to New York last weekend for a pharmacists convention. My local airport in Puerto Rico is not only opening our bags, robbing us blind and practially leaving us in our birthday suits, They are taking every single medicine you have and throwing it in the garbage can. This is just wrong. A friend of mine needs to take insulin; Imagine if he has to travel and they throw it out. Where the hell is he gonna get more?! This is supposed to be downright illegal but somehow it isnt!
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Unread 08-15-2006, 11:22 AM   #56
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Just wanted to throw this potential grenade:

Muslims now face tougher secuirty

At least in Britain.

Part of me is thinking "Good idea", the other part is "Wow, racial profiling, didn't we try to get rid of that?"

Oh well, I guess that's what happens when your race and religion are most well known for blowing stuff up.
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Unread 08-15-2006, 05:29 PM   #57
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Part of me is thinking "Good idea", the other part is "Wow, racial profiling, didn't we try to get rid of that?"

Oh well, I guess that's what happens when your race and religion are most well known for blowing stuff up.
You know what would be nice? If we could drop the "It's the Muslims!!121!!" thing, and take every terrorist, and just burn a "T" into their forehead, like they like to do to pirates (but, you know...with a "P"). It'd make things easier.

Also....I feel like the reactionary way that airport security the world-over is forced to deal with this terrorist threat is bullshit. It's not that they're doing anything wrong (well...in a general, "we're trying to keep shit safe" way), it's just the way they seemed forced into it. And. That. Blows.

I'm glad that they caught these guys, and I'm glad at the moment that there's all this crazy security in place. I just hope that a) water on planes starts to cost less with increased volume of purchases, and that b) people remember that little thing called "a book," that was there to entertain you long before laptops, and that is still allowed on planes. 9 hours on a plane blows, yes, but you can get through some serious reading in that time span. Or napping. That's a full night's sleep right there.

On a side note: has anyone ever seen PCU? The movie's alright, but there's a great moment, where one of the guys says that he put dog bones in his friend's backpack when they were coming back from Spring Break. "The dogs went wild!"

I've always wanted to try that.
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Unread 08-15-2006, 09:09 PM   #58
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Just wanted to throw this potential grenade:

Muslims now face tougher secuirty

Part of me is thinking "Good idea", the other part is "Wow, racial profiling, didn't we try to get rid of that?"

Oh well, I guess that's what happens when your race and religion are most well known for blowing stuff up.
Oh, the whole profiling against muslims thing has already been in place, just no one talked about it. I've heard from security guards that they are told to be weary of muslim looking people. But the whole "that's what happens" thing is bullshit. Why don't we start rounding up christian people for all the crusades, genecide, wars, and murders done in Jesus's name? Oh yeah THAT would be TOO racist now wouldnt it. Hypocrites.
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Unread 08-15-2006, 09:17 PM   #59
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Well, it wouldn't be racist exactly. More, theocracist, possibly?

And the Christians haven't crusaded in a long time.
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Unread 08-17-2006, 11:35 AM   #60
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As a postscript to all this, just to clear one thing up:

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I've been under the impression that many of the changes to airport security have been caused by Mandates and laws issued from the government. Can someone please find a source that says one way or the other? From what I've heard from speeches on television on the news, Bush has implied that his administration made the changes to protect us.

anything sourced from a reliable source online will be accepted as proof either way, as I'm confused now.
These things go out as Security Directives from the Department of Homeland Security Transportation Safety Administration.

Just FYI.
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