Kingdom Hearts II: Why all the hate? - Page 3

Vault Of Thrones · 02-24-2008, 10:22 PM

I know that they weren't so hot in CoM, but Sora doesn't remember any of his time in the castle, so that can't be why they are bad in KH2. I haven't really played CoM though, (I have it, I borrowed it from my cousins, and have yet to play it much), so I can't really comment on what happens in it.

Mondt · 02-24-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

I think it was the methods they used to get what they wanted. Sora probably mentioned it in one line, but it was thrown as rather passable to be sincere.

Stealing the hearts of people who had already become heartless?

I mean Mesden explained this to me once and I totally forgot. Even after that it was only like half evil.

Also, demand moar FM+ for americaz

Mirai Gen · 02-24-2008, 10:24 PM

To be fair, the fanfiction and fanart community have gone at great lengths to celebrate how Sora gets all teary and emotional at the first sight of Riku.

Also; what the hell was with that 'plot twist' at the end? Seriously, Riku gets Ansem's body and is all emo over it? It could have been great but the twists' setup was "Call me Ansem" at the beginning then "ZOMG I'm not Ansem, I'm Riku!" Yet another "Could have been" turning into "But it wasn't."

Also, here's the info on all the Disney-ification to everything.

I mean being totally fair, the game was great during the very beginning and the very end. Riku joining your party with the Darkness keyblade and you and him kicking Xenahort's ass then chopping buildings in half with the crazy bike Gradius escape scene, I mean all of this was awesome. It's just getting there that was boring, plot wise.

Regulus Tera · 02-24-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondt

Stealing the hearts of people who had already become heartless?

I mean Mesden explained this to me once and I totally forgot. Even after that it was only like half evil.

Also, demand moar FM+ for americaz

It was probably more about the collateral damage they did while looking for Kingdom Hearts.

And fuck it, I'm not paying for FM+ even if it comes here.

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Originally Posted by Ryong

The thread asks why all the hate. It's almost bound that someone here would comment that. After all, there have been people who hated it because of exactly that.

I think you'll find that people in NPF are generally more open to those kind of things than anywhere else in the interwebz.

Ryong · 02-24-2008, 10:41 PM

Well, here's something: Whenever I read a book or play a game that's a sequel to another, I always have a feeling on how familiar everything seems. It's cool. I remember when I started playing KH2, more exactly, the point where you start controlling Sora. I liked how his fighting style had changed ( even if it was only a bit ), his spells got different, he got taller ( and they actually comment on it like, ONCE ) and since his VA got older and they didn't go and hire someone else with a familiar voice to KH1 Sora, it was awesome. Sure, there were a lot of problems in the plot, but I liked it.

Lord of Joshelplex · 02-24-2008, 11:19 PM

It did have that insanely badass dude that fought with like, a bajillion spears at once though.

Ryong · 02-24-2008, 11:23 PM

Ah yes, Xaldin, the hexa-wielder of spears. Sa�x was also pretty awesome, with the whole crazy berserk power of doom and all.

Robert Paulson · 02-25-2008, 12:15 AM

So basically, everyone hates KHII because of the storyline. Now I understand how I could like both games; it's because I don't really care about story when I'm playing a videogame.

But this somehow implies that everyone likes the storyline of KHI. Again, this is strange to me because, honestly, I don't think either game has a good storyline. KHI's plot is really simplistic, and the whole point behind the plot of KHII is that it makes absolutely no goddamn sense whatsoever. (Yes, I did pick up on that when I played it.)

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I MISS FLYING DAMMIT!!

Me too. This I did notice. I was not happy.

Regulus Tera · 02-25-2008, 12:16 AM

KHI's storyline doesn't try to pass as generic animu crap badly mixed with Disney overtones of friendship and the power of love, number of mentions of the word "darkness" aside.

Red Fighter 1073 · 02-25-2008, 07:10 AM

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KHI's storyline doesn't try to pass as generic animu crap badly mixed with Disney overtones of friendship and the power of love, number of mentions of the word "darkness" aside.

I must've heard Sora speak of love and friendship in KH1 at least a billion times, especially at Hollow Bastion.

02-24-2008, 10:22 PM	#21
Vault Of Thrones A Threat to the District Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: /dev/null Posts: 444	I know that they weren't so hot in CoM, but Sora doesn't remember any of his time in the castle, so that can't be why they are bad in KH2. I haven't really played CoM though, (I have it, I borrowed it from my cousins, and have yet to play it much), so I can't really comment on what happens in it. __________________ Twitter!

02-24-2008, 10:24 PM	#23
Mirai Gen We are Geth. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 14,032	To be fair, the fanfiction and fanart community have gone at great lengths to celebrate how Sora gets all teary and emotional at the first sight of Riku. Also; what the hell was with that 'plot twist' at the end? Seriously, Riku gets Ansem's body and is all emo over it? It could have been great but the twists' setup was "Call me Ansem" at the beginning then "ZOMG I'm not Ansem, I'm Riku!" Yet another "Could have been" turning into "But it wasn't." Also, here's the info on all the Disney-ification to everything. I mean being totally fair, the game was great during the very beginning and the very end. Riku joining your party with the Darkness keyblade and you and him kicking Xenahort's ass then chopping buildings in half with the crazy bike Gradius escape scene, I mean all of this was awesome. It's just getting there that was boring, plot wise. __________________

02-24-2008, 10:41 PM	#25
Ryong Professional Threadkiller Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,798	Well, here's something: Whenever I read a book or play a game that's a sequel to another, I always have a feeling on how familiar everything seems. It's cool. I remember when I started playing KH2, more exactly, the point where you start controlling Sora. I liked how his fighting style had changed ( even if it was only a bit ), his spells got different, he got taller ( and they actually comment on it like, ONCE ) and since his VA got older and they didn't go and hire someone else with a familiar voice to KH1 Sora, it was awesome. Sure, there were a lot of problems in the plot, but I liked it.

02-24-2008, 11:19 PM	#26
Lord of Joshelplex Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bird's Hill MB Posts: 4,055	It did have that insanely badass dude that fought with like, a bajillion spears at once though.

02-24-2008, 11:23 PM	#27
Ryong Professional Threadkiller Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,798	Ah yes, Xaldin, the hexa-wielder of spears. Sa�x was also pretty awesome, with the whole crazy berserk power of doom and all.

02-25-2008, 12:16 AM	#29
Regulus Tera lol i dont even know Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,271	KHI's storyline doesn't try to pass as generic animu crap badly mixed with Disney overtones of friendship and the power of love, number of mentions of the word "darkness" aside.