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FunkyBlackMage · 10-06-2008, 10:05 PM

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In other news, I just read a very troubling piece of information; apparantly, Sylar's lost all of his aquired powers from season 1 after he cured the virus, except for his TK. Can anyone confirm this? Because if that's true, that's the most stupid fucking thing they've done in this show. I hope it isn't true, not least because he still seemed to be able to hide in thin air (shadow manipulation?) while he was stalking Claire in the season opener, which wouldn't make sense if he already lost that power.

I mean ok yeah, he never really used most of these extra unknown powers anyway, but to just go and scrap them all completely is fucking stupid. And why would his TK be unnafected?

Future Sylar was able to paint the future, so I'm pretty sure present Sylar still has all his powers.

Mondt · 10-06-2008, 10:18 PM

Anger aside, Sylar should still be alive shouldn't he? I mean Peter survived exploding. Couldn't he still help Peter do his thing since Present Sylar is doom death badguy?

Preturbed · 10-06-2008, 11:35 PM

I'm pretty upset with today's episode.

I mean, they killed a Peter. Killed him dead and he has Claireblood all through him. Also shouldn't Peter have absorbed all sorts of shit from Sylar already, not to mention his future self? Also Also, Mohinder's Dr. Jekyll/The Fly thing is just too ridiculous and predictable.

**Satan's Onion** · 10-07-2008, 12:08 AM

So, Claire's gonna become probably evil now, and Nikki'stwin whose name I can't remember is part of a set of triplets, so it's nice to know that once they dick around with her character for no good reason and then kill her off when they're tired of her, there's still one backup copy of her out there somewhere. (I'm beginning to think that Heroes is kind of hit-and-miss with its female characters.) Also, Peter is one of the most boneheadedly naive sons of bitches ever to walk the face of the earth, even now, when he really, really, really, really, really shouldn't be. Seriously, he sounded Fighter-naive in this ep. What the hell? If you go by the conversation he had with future!Peter, he should think that kittens shit lollipops and cotton candy and no one has ever had an unkind thought about anyone, ever, in the whole history of humanity. This was stupid, even taking into account Peter's normal levels of stupid.

Mirai Gen · 10-07-2008, 12:23 AM

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(I'm baginning to think that Heroes is kind of hit-and-miss with its female characters.)

I'm beginning to think that Heroes is hit-and-miss after Season 1, period. I was profoundly disappointed with Season 2 (Okay mostly the first half) and Season Peter Is Dumb isn't looking much better. Start off with retconning killing Nathan in the first episode (oops, but Nikki's still dead!). I mean Claire started out being awesome, then in the second season she was a sack of girly, stupid emotions. Now she's just being an evil bitch. Adding to the fact that every time they do something, they need to take Peter out of the equation. Hiro's awesome, though, but we knew that. And the future-past shapeshifting versions of everything is just starting to make my head hurt.

I really wish Kring had kept to his original idea of having each season exist within itself before shifting to a new group of heroes. The power-spread is getting kind of absurd.

Preturbed · 10-07-2008, 08:04 AM

I think an entirely Hiro-based spinoff would do very well.

Ryanderman · 10-07-2008, 10:02 AM

Maybe I'm crazy, but I didn't hate this episode at all. In fact, I thought it was pretty awesome and a good return to form. Though I wish they'd explain how it is that, even though he has Claire's ability, Peter can still be killed. I'm sure they've got a reason, they just really need to be better at expressing it..

I actually like what they're doing to Peter. It's giving him an interesting story arc. Instead of one just consisting of him being stupid, this one will consist of him being stupid, while struggling against the "hunger".

And even though the old "we've seen the future, now we have to stop it" formula is getting old, this episode served to actually make it kinda interesting again.

And the writing was somewhat better. The dialog wasn't quite as cheesy, the character's actions made a bit more sense.

So I'm encouraged overall.

Mesden · 10-07-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawk

In other news, I just read a very troubling piece of information; apparantly, Sylar's lost all of his aquired powers from season 1 after he cured the virus, except for his TK. Can anyone confirm this? Because if that's true, that's the most stupid fucking thing they've done in this show. I hope it isn't true, not least because he still seemed to be able to hide in thin air (shadow manipulation?) while he was stalking Claire in the season opener, which wouldn't make sense if he already lost that power.

I mean ok yeah, he never really used most of these extra unknown powers anyway, but to just go and scrap them all completely is fucking stupid. And why would his TK be unnafected?

They've already shown that most of Sylar's past kills also had their brain completely removed from their body, even though he showed with Claire that he doesn't need to take the brain, just examine it with his original power to understand and use it. I'm making an assumption here that Sylar took the brains of people he killed and put them in safe keeping, just in case -- probably the ones it wasn't much of an issue to take before having to make a quick getaway, like TK man.

Or he just found some more people with the exact same powers and nomnom'd.

Ryanderman · 10-07-2008, 10:20 AM

I just remembered that they already established that Peter and Claire can be killed by sticking something through their brain stem, but they come back to life if it's removed. So I'm going to assume that Claire put a bullet in Scarface Peter's brain stem, and left it there, with explicit instructions to anyone else involved not to remove it.

And future Sylar exploded with Ted's power, so I think he hasn't lost anything.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 10-07-2008, 11:21 AM

Peter can be killed. He only ever revives from death if Claire is around, because her ability is automatically duplicated in him. Every other time he's used the regen power he's still been conscious enough to think about Claire (or Adam now) and thus activate that power.

Basically Claires regen is automatic, Peters isn't. He's still empathic remember. Granted I haven't seen these latest episodes yet so I don't know the exact details of whats gone on.

10-06-2008, 11:35 PM	#53
Preturbed betrayal! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,092	I'm pretty upset with today's episode. I mean, they killed a Peter. Killed him dead and he has Claireblood all through him. Also shouldn't Peter have absorbed all sorts of shit from Sylar already, not to mention his future self? Also Also, Mohinder's Dr. Jekyll/The Fly thing is just too ridiculous and predictable. __________________ sudden but inevitable

10-07-2008, 12:08 AM	#54
Satan's Onion Swing You Sinners! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 4th Street Posts: 2,666	So, Claire's gonna become probably evil now, and Nikki'stwin whose name I can't remember is part of a set of triplets, so it's nice to know that once they dick around with her character for no good reason and then kill her off when they're tired of her, there's still one backup copy of her out there somewhere. (I'm beginning to think that Heroes is kind of hit-and-miss with its female characters.) Also, Peter is one of the most boneheadedly naive sons of bitches ever to walk the face of the earth, even now, when he really, really, really, really, really shouldn't be. Seriously, he sounded Fighter-naive in this ep. What the hell? If you go by the conversation he had with future!Peter, he should think that kittens shit lollipops and cotton candy and no one has ever had an unkind thought about anyone, ever, in the whole history of humanity. This was stupid, even taking into account Peter's normal levels of stupid. __________________ Good evening, ladies. Please enter and be tained . Last edited by Satan's Onion; 10-07-2008 at 12:10 AM.

10-07-2008, 08:04 AM	#56
Preturbed betrayal! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,092	I think an entirely Hiro-based spinoff would do very well. __________________ sudden but inevitable

10-07-2008, 10:02 AM	#57
Ryanderman Beard of Leadership Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 827	Maybe I'm crazy, but I didn't hate this episode at all. In fact, I thought it was pretty awesome and a good return to form. Though I wish they'd explain how it is that, even though he has Claire's ability, Peter can still be killed. I'm sure they've got a reason, they just really need to be better at expressing it.. I actually like what they're doing to Peter. It's giving him an interesting story arc. Instead of one just consisting of him being stupid, this one will consist of him being stupid, while struggling against the "hunger". And even though the old "we've seen the future, now we have to stop it" formula is getting old, this episode served to actually make it kinda interesting again. And the writing was somewhat better. The dialog wasn't quite as cheesy, the character's actions made a bit more sense. So I'm encouraged overall. __________________ ~Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to stop, it turns. You tell it to turn, it stops. You tell it to take out the trash, it watches reruns of Firefly.~

10-07-2008, 10:20 AM	#59
Ryanderman Beard of Leadership Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 827	I just remembered that they already established that Peter and Claire can be killed by sticking something through their brain stem, but they come back to life if it's removed. So I'm going to assume that Claire put a bullet in Scarface Peter's brain stem, and left it there, with explicit instructions to anyone else involved not to remove it. And future Sylar exploded with Ted's power, so I think he hasn't lost anything. __________________ ~Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to stop, it turns. You tell it to turn, it stops. You tell it to take out the trash, it watches reruns of Firefly.~