In my creation of a World of Darkness RP... - Page 16

Dante · 04-15-2004, 01:14 AM

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But krylo brought up a good point before. Werewolves believe in Gaia, so if they have some Gaia related religious item with them, they can repel vampires with that.

Because only God repels undead. Gaia is indifferent.

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And why machine gun me? (I just want to see a list)

For fun, laughter, peace and joy. And also because you're stinking Lupine swine! :p j/k

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Also: Why machinegun me? I was just wondering if it was possible for a werewolf to have true faith in gaia.

See above. Precisely the same thing applies.

Nope, not possible about the True Faith. It's got to be a god-like figure, and the Wolves RESPECT Gaia. They don't worship her.

IHateMakingNames · 04-15-2004, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante

Because only God repels undead. Gaia is indifferent.

But any religion can do it, why not Gaia?

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For fun, laughter, peace and joy. And also because you're stinking Lupine swine! :p

What's Lupine swine mean?

Forever Zero · 04-15-2004, 01:16 AM

Meh, the machinegunning seemed like a good idea at the time. Many things do...

As for the Gaia question, not sure entirely. I would need to look it up. Which would take time. Thus instead, I'll be lazy, and pass the question on to Dante.

A lupine swine, taken literally, is a dog pig... Lupine is just the plural of the technical term for werewolves, Lupus.

Dante · 04-15-2004, 01:18 AM

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But any religion can do it, why not Gaia?

Perhaps I should rephrase this - only a belief in the Almighty suffices. Gaia is not part of the Almighty. Especially given the Metaphysical Triat.

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What's Lupine swine mean?

Short answer: You.

Long answer: "People using the username IHateMakingNames on nuklearpower.com who post in the "In my creation of a World of Darkness RP... " thread."

Mage#27 · 04-15-2004, 01:19 AM

I am almost sure that you cannot have true faith in gaia though I know of no book that says that explictly.

Krylo's faith and proof comment is the best explanation I can think of. Werewolves and demons do not have faith in their religons. They know they are correct.

As for demons sure they are reminscient of Christian theology but they aren't proof of it. I fact the dmeon storyline disproves alot of what Christians believe.

Snefix · 04-15-2004, 01:22 AM

I downloaded all the files that Dante uploaded, I'll review them as soon as possible(meaning after I get some sleep), create Dimitri, and try to have my Mage character submitted sometime in the afternoon.

Krylo · 04-15-2004, 01:22 AM

I'd also like to point out that I am not lupine swine... I'm demonic/angelic swine. As such, Dante, your comment about "exactly the same" applying is incorrect. So there.

...And I was starting to think no one had noticed that edit... thank you for proving someone had, Mage.

Forever Zero · 04-15-2004, 01:23 AM

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I am almost sure that you cannot have true faith in gaia though I know of no book that says that explictly.

Krylo's faith and proof comment is the best explanation I can think of. Werewolves and demons do not have faith in their religons. They know they are correct.

That is pretty much waht I gathered. A Fallen can have no faith of their own, and must rely on gathering the faith of independant humans to support them. They KNOW what is and isn't, while a regular person must be convinced to believe and have faith in it.

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As for demons sure they are reminscient of Christian theology but they aren't proof of it. I fact the dmeon storyline disproves alot of what Christians believe.

How so? It seems to follow in detail what was believed to be the reason for Lucifer's Expulsion from Heaven, and brings up frequent imagery of the Angels and in God.

IHateMakingNames · 04-15-2004, 01:24 AM

What edit?

Dante · 04-15-2004, 01:24 AM

Mage27: I also noticed that there are NO occurences of the word "Merit" or "True Faith" in the Werewolf 3E rulebook...

This would seem to imply that Werewolves CANNOT have True Faith. Especially true given that the cosmologies for Werewolf and Vampire seem radically different...

FZ: Maybe what he's talkign about is that Demon postulates Lucifer as a noble being who wished to care for humanity, rather than drag it down into sin.

Snefix: Who's your avatar of?

krylo: The Fallen DO have True Faith. or at least, they used to have. Now they've turned their backs on God, that faith is hardly True Faith any more. All they know, all they believe of God is that he cast them down for caring for the very things they were commanded in His name to make and watch over. To say all Fallen resent God to some extent is correct... and thus they CANNOT have True Faith, at least not in the sense that mortals do.

04-15-2004, 01:16 AM	#153
Forever Zero Saint of Stats Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The End Of The World Posts: 5,646	Meh, the machinegunning seemed like a good idea at the time. Many things do... As for the Gaia question, not sure entirely. I would need to look it up. Which would take time. Thus instead, I'll be lazy, and pass the question on to Dante. A lupine swine, taken literally, is a dog pig... Lupine is just the plural of the technical term for werewolves, Lupus. __________________ "For the Angel of Death spread his wings on the blast, And breathed in the face of the foe as he pass'd; And the eyes of the sleepers wax'd deadly and chill, And their hearts but once heaved, and for ever grew still!" - The Destruction of Sennacherib

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Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	I'd also like to point out that I am not lupine swine... I'm demonic/angelic swine. As such, Dante, your comment about "exactly the same" applying is incorrect. So there. ...And I was starting to think no one had noticed that edit... thank you for proving someone had, Mage. __________________ I am very tired.

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IHateMakingNames Awwwwh Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 12,119	What edit? __________________ "If I'm reincarnated, I want to be Musashi again!" - Musashi, Brave Fencer Musashi

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Dante Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Crushing the weak beneath the iron jackboots of tyranny Posts: 7,703	Mage27: I also noticed that there are NO occurences of the word "Merit" or "True Faith" in the Werewolf 3E rulebook... This would seem to imply that Werewolves CANNOT have True Faith. Especially true given that the cosmologies for Werewolf and Vampire seem radically different... FZ: Maybe what he's talkign about is that Demon postulates Lucifer as a noble being who wished to care for humanity, rather than drag it down into sin. Snefix: Who's your avatar of? krylo: The Fallen DO have True Faith. or at least, they used to have. Now they've turned their backs on God, that faith is hardly True Faith any more. All they know, all they believe of God is that he cast them down for caring for the very things they were commanded in His name to make and watch over. To say all Fallen resent God to some extent is correct... and thus they CANNOT have True Faith, at least not in the sense that mortals do. Last edited by Dante; 04-15-2004 at 01:29 AM.

04-15-2004, 01:19 AM	#155
Mage#27 Troopa Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 99	I am almost sure that you cannot have true faith in gaia though I know of no book that says that explictly. Krylo's faith and proof comment is the best explanation I can think of. Werewolves and demons do not have faith in their religons. They know they are correct. As for demons sure they are reminscient of Christian theology but they aren't proof of it. I fact the dmeon storyline disproves alot of what Christians believe.

04-15-2004, 01:22 AM	#156
Snefix Troopa Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 56	I downloaded all the files that Dante uploaded, I'll review them as soon as possible(meaning after I get some sleep), create Dimitri, and try to have my Mage character submitted sometime in the afternoon.