Battle Royale: the Ultimate All-Purpose Versus Thread

[CheshireThief]

How about afros versus mullets?

[IHateMakingNames]

Afros win easy. Mullets are nothing compared to a giant ball of hair (No white boy afros though, that's just soccer hair).

[Dragonsbane]

Afros win, the people who have them need a pick to control them........showing their innate ferocity.

Mullets got nothing on that

here's a fight.......

the Borg and the Drow vs. the Phyrexians

[Krylo]

Borg. They assimiliate the Drow, adding amazing magical abilities and the favor of Lloth to their power, and then they use that to assimilate the Phyrexians.

[StormRider]

Ah yes, but baseball caps are divided into many different warring factions. Would a Red Sox and a Yankees cap work together, even against a sombrero? I think not. The sombreros descend and wipe out the baseball caps as they bicker amongst themselves.

[MasterOfMagic]

That, and the Sombreros are so much better than baseball caps its not funny. Which would you pay more attention to? a person wearing an ordinary baseball cap, or some one with a sombrero on? Huh?

*becomes a full Member*

LVL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats Yo! Just watch out for Black Mage worshipers, they enjoy giving out Stabbity Death.

*Strokes his knife*

[Otaku Son]

Nyah, Snake would tear Samus up, still.

Okay, here's one. Hattori Hanzo of Samurai Showdown vs Ryu Hayabusa of Ninja Gaiden. Then, Hanzo vs Shinobi of Shinobi. Then Ryu vs Shinobi. Follow by Hanzo vs Rikimaru of Tenchu. And Ryu vs Rikimaru. And Shiobi vs Rikimaru. And then a four-way free-for-all. Yeah, let's unleash all the top ninja on each other. And no Sosa mechanics allowed.

[Dragonsbane]

COULD the borg assimilate the drow? I mean, they don't even have magic, and keep getting kicked around by the Federation.......whereas the Drow are a powerful and vicious race backed by an evil goddess, once the borg assimilate the first bitchy drow priestess, she would either kill all of the other borg, or overthrow their current queen and become their new ruler. The phyrexians also have near-infinite numbers, starships that can travel between the planes, dark magic, incredible weaponry, and the leadership of Yawgmoth. The logic concerning sombreros is sound, and the point about warring factions amongst the baseball caps makes sense. Wizard hats, such as those worn by Black Mage *strokes his knife lovingly* are even better.........those who disagree shall face stabbity death!
:bmage: :bmage:

Snake will NEVER beat Samus...........and what's wrong with Sosa mechanics?
:rmage:

[PsyBlade]

after realizing that Samus could could just charge the Ice Beam Combo (from Prime) and ice most if not all her human opponents in a bout a minute, I've decided to end my 3v3 batttle
now here's a new one
Samus Aran vs. One Borg Cube
she's fighting in the cube against the Borg, not the cube itself, and she has one ally
any videogame character who started in a videogame can be her ally
I'm assuming she can't be assimilated due to her suit

lets see i dont think any one has put these battles yet so if so then please ftlog some one tell me!
1 the us Army Rangers team(not delta force just rangers in general) vs us navy seals team ("I my self would think the rangers but there might be someone out there who would look at this logicly and not like a fan-boy! please if any write back on this one!
2 Abraham Lincoln(16 pres) VS John F. Kennedy(35 pres) (the low-down they where both assassinated)
3the Republican Presidents(18) plus whigs Presidents(2) plus Federalist President(1) (total 21) VS Democratic Presidents(also included Andrew Johnson Democratic/National Union) (15) plus Democratic-Republican Presidents(4) plus whigs(2) (total 21) with George Washington as the ref. any comments on this one would be very good!
As everyone here knows the USA is the best at War so these two are in question of what would be the out come?
4 the US VS everyone else!
5 the us army vs the us marines vs the us navy vs the us Airforce (battle royal! let the carnage begin!)

[Dragonsbane]

I shall answer one of your battles, young Alpha, so that you will not lose sleep wondering about them........

Abraham Lincoln saved the Union, he can easily beat JFK...........see almost any Twinkin' Out With Red Mage :rmage: column to understand why.

[Otaku Son]

Dragonsbane, you wanna know hat's wrong Sosa mechanics? Well, here's what's wrong if we use Sosa mechanics for Samus vs. Snake.

Sosa: "Snake defintely wins because he gets his ninja buddy Gray Fox to come along on a T-Rex armed with Febreeze and he just wipes Samus out with his weird ninja/T-rex/Febreeze powers."

There, Snake wins. And this:

Sosa: "I win against Lydia because I spray Febreeze in her face."

Sosa wins. And this:

Sosa: "Black Mage just sprays Febreeze at Raistlin."

Black Mage wins. Do we see a common factor here among Sosa mechanics?

[StormRider]

OK, for the last time, Snake would get his ass kicked. Move on, please.

OK, now for the Ultimate Grudge Match: Frog vs. Magus.

I expect everyone's gonna say Magus, but my vote goes to Frog. Frog's got the Masamune, which is a legendary sword, and also does double damage to Magic-based foes (a category to which I think Magus qualifies) and he can heal himself.

[Jack of Spades]

Yes Magus is weak vs Masamune. and I think frog would win too. It's pretty easy for frog to beat magus if you choose to fight him in the furture instead of geting him to join you.

[IHateMakingNames]

Magus wins.

Battle Mechanics wise, Magus can do more damage with Dark Matter then Frog can with any of his spells (Including his healing spells) and his physical attack, so Magus can keep using magic and eventually kill Frog.

Story wise, Magus also wins. Frog is just a great soldier with a legendary sword. Magus spent his entire life mastering magic, so much the God of War, Spekkio (Guy who gave all of the characters besides Magus their magic) says "He could teach me a thing or two". Magus also is good with a sycthe, but it doesn't really matter since he extreme mastery of magic can demolish Frog alone.

[Otaku Son]

Damn, I actually agree with IHMN for once.

Anyway, I refgisters over at the Comic Book Resources forum, and reading their FAQ/Rules, I realized we're really lacking something in the whole Samus vs. Snake stuff...

What's the arena?

Obviously Samus can't blast through everything, or else she would in the games. There's a limit to what she ca blast through reguardless of what he weapon is(hence how some weapons only work on some walls, while no weapon will work on anything at all).

[IHateMakingNames]

Snake will lose in any arena. See, the problem with Snake vs Samus is this.

Snake dies to 1 hit from anything Samus shots.

Samus could take at least a hundred of any of Snake's missles without dying, and his bullets are probably all but useless.

[Otaku Son]

Hence why we still have the fire extinguisher, the chaffs, the C4, the claymores...

Personally, I don't think I'd be this uptight save for that one person who posted, "Snake would come up behind Samus with a piano string an Samus would be like 'WTF?'" because that's what set me off. But, I'm willing to fight it to the end since I started it.

And is there some reason my ninja matchup is getting no attention?

[IHateMakingNames]

Okay, here's one. Hattori Hanzo of Samurai Showdown vs Ryu Hayabusa of Ninja Gaiden. Then, Hanzo vs Shinobi of Shinobi. Then Ryu vs Shinobi. Follow by Hanzo vs Rikimaru of Tenchu. And Ryu vs Rikimaru. And Shiobi vs Rikimaru. And then a four-way free-for-all. Yeah, let's unleash all the top ninja on each other. And no Sosa mechanics allowed.

Winners are in this order. Ryu, Shinobi, Ryu, Hanzo, Ryu, Shinobi, Ryu.

Hence why we still have the fire extinguisher, the chaffs, the C4, the claymores...

Fire extinguisher = Worthless. He tries to come close enough to use it, he will die.

Chaffs = Worthless. A moment of no radar, big deal. She can see through the glass.

C4 = Worthless. He will kill himself since if he ran, he won't win (Leaving the fight counts as a loss), and if he doesn't run he has a much higher chance of dying then Samus does in her Power Suit. And he has no moments to place it on Samus safetly.

Claymores = Actually worth while, but not enough power to kill Samus (He can't carry enough to kill her).

[Otaku Son]

He can carry plenty to kill Samus if he has his bandanna.

For C4, Snake just has to use it like a Claymore; set it down, then run away from it(who says he has to lavethe field?). The only difference is he has to detonate it manually when Samus is over it.

She can see through her glass, but then say Snake puts the stealth on while her radar's down. She can't use her other visions because the chaff is in effect.

Then, while he's invisble, then he can use the extinguisher. Or, as I stated earlier, he can use it as a bomb.

And let's not forget the good ol' regulard grenades.

Now, I think Hanzo would win against Ryu because Hanzo has more Ninja magic than Ryu. Hanzo has the ability to vanish. The he can produce a double-image of himself, confusing Ryu. Or he can appear above Ryu, coming down on him. Or he can just cut himself out of the air. Ryu would turn on his magic fire, but then Hanzo would keep away from him until it runs down. And Ryu has a limited amount of Ninja magic, while Hanzo doesn't; he can keep usin his magic over and over. And eventually it'd get to the point where Ryu no longer has those Sacred Scrolls of Life or whatever they're called. Besides, didn't we learn from Kill Bill that a Hattori Hanzo sword is the best blade made?

[IHateMakingNames]

Samus can just use infrared vision and see Snake, then blast where ever he is hiding waiting for a chance to blow up his mines since he stands no chance (Even with them).

If he chaffs and throws it, Samus will just blow up the area and surronding areas where the chaff came from with super missles, or blow up the room with power bombs.

And even if Snake does some how get invisible and Samus doesn't blow him up, he has no way of hurting Samus that wouldn't take hours to kill her.

And if he somehow gets up to her and hits her with the fire extinguisher without dying, she can just wipe off the stuff.

Edit - Ryu can use his Lighting Magic and clear the area of Hanzo, or just kick his ass melee (Which he could easily do).

[Otaku Son]

How can Samus use it if it relies on her radar being available?

Now, see, that thing I don't get about Power Bombs is if they're so powerful, how come Samus isn't affected by 'em? I mean, they only blow up certain walls. They don't blow up walls that need to be shot at with missiles or super missiles, yet they wipe out everything within a radius. I think the Power Bombs are more game mechanics than anything.

So? Even if it takes hours, it's still a defeat.

[Edit]Yes, and notice how I stated Hanzo has the ability to vanish? Hanzo looks like a pretty fierce melee fighter in Samurai Showdown 5.[/Edit]

[IHateMakingNames]

Chaffs don't last long, and Snake is hiding so he can set off his claymores/C4s which he would have no time to actually place down, but I'm just going to give it to him. If he throws a chaff, he gives away his position and dies. If he doesn't, infrared, his position is blown, he is dead.

Well, we can pass those game mechanics by having Samus go into a Spin Attack after setting it off, surronding her with energy so that will take the power bombs blast. And missles and super missles explosion are directing into a specific point (The wall), while the power bomb just blows up the entire place to kill orangic/mechanical things.

He can win in hours if Samus stood there taking hits and using her backup life every time she almost died until she ran out. But Samus won't be standing there taking hits and not blowing up the entire arena, so Snake can't kill her, while she can easily kill Snake.

Edit - If Hanzo disappears, then Ryu can just stand still and wait for him to undisappear, then react when Hanzo tries to attack him, via magic or melee.

[Dragonsbane]

Actually, Sosa mechanics hardly EVER allow the use of Febreeze in a fight, just because he considers it too unbalancing.....you need to read more carefully.

And any of the tactics you suggest Snake using against Samus seem to rely on her NOT TRYING TO KILL HIM while he's setting bombs, throwing chaff, etc....

[BassDouken]

Now, see, that thing I don't get about Power Bombs is if they're so powerful, how come Samus isn't affected by 'em? I mean, they only blow up certain walls. They don't blow up walls that need to be shot at with missiles or super missiles, yet they wipe out everything within a radius. I think the Power Bombs are more game mechanics than anything.

*cough*POWERSUIT*cough*

If Snake does go invisible, Samus has a thermal and infared reading with her visor. The C-4s wouldn't do a whole lot of damage to Samus either.

[Otaku Son]

He can run while he throws chaffs, y'know. So, how does he give away his poition. And, as I stated, Samus' infrared relies on her visor working properly; she doesn't wear goggles like Snake does. And if there's pillars for him to hide behind, well, guess what...he can hide behind the pillars while he sets his claymores and what not.

And, if I remember correctly, there are walls where if you hit them with missiles, it shows you the Power Bomb symbol. Likewise, the Power Bomb cannot destroy walls that do not have the Power Bomb symbols.

[Edit]See the attachments I've provided.

And Bass, I already took the power suit into consideration, if you'll read the post a little more closely. As well as her thermal/infrared relying on her visor's functionality...

And yes, Ryu could stand still, but that would leave him open for a back-attack if Hanzo attacks him from behind. I don't know how many times I've been cheated in Ninja Gaiden becase an enemy spawns behind me.[/Edit]

[IHateMakingNames]

You know what, fuck it. This battle bores me now. At first it was entertaining, but now it's just Otaku making up crap and ignoring the fact that Samus can just blow up everything and kill Snake, which is something she could do blindfolded. Keep argueing if you want, but I'm most likely not going to post about this battle anymore. Snake loses, get over it you fanboy.

And as for Ryu, I kill enemies behind me all the time. The Vigaroon Flails attack behind Ryu all the time, and he will just wait for a noise behind him, then turn around a slash.

[Otaku Son]

Hey, you think I'm bad? Check out this response I got when I posted the batte to comicbookresources.com

Originally Posted by Mekon

Samus kicks some ass. Then again we've never seen her up against a handsome special forces guy before. Maybe she will be overcome by feelings of lust and remove her battle suit.

In which case she may well feel what a solid snake has to offer.

And if Samus nukes the area, she destroys X and Zero. Or pisses X off and he goes and knocks the crap outta her for interrupting him. Besides, she has limited ammo also.

And about the Ninja thing...for the sake of being Ninja, they all use their katanas and shruikins.

[IHateMakingNames]

She wants to destroy Zero, and X can take a lot of hits (I'm not good at staying out of things). (Edit) - Now, unless you again say something that needs to be corrected because it is so wrong (Like X attack his teammate or dying to some missles...), then I shall refrain from posting.


Ninja's don't only use katanas and shruikins.

[Otaku Son]

I'm quite aware of that.

So let's throw in their Ninja magic, too.

[Edit]Also, Samus would deal "friendly fire."[/Edit]

[Dragonsbane]

Ninjas don't even use Katanas............they use a shorter, straight sword called a Ninja-to; whose sheath was often longer than the actual blade in order to conceal a secret compartment which held poisons, smokebombs, etc. Just for the record, the ninja magic to which you both refer exists only in games, the actual, seemingly magical skills of a ninja were the results of intensive stealth and combat training since early childhood, and surprisingly advanced traning in hypnotism and self-hypnotism.

that said..............here's a new fight!

IHMN vs. Otaku Son

(it has already begun.............)

[Otaku Son]

Not to turn this into a history lesson, but...

Ninja-to are of the old-style ninja. Hanzo and Ryu are both ninja of the modern day. And it even says on the Ninja Gaiden website that the Dragon Sword is a katana.

However, who would win between ninja and samurai?

Or Ryu and Ken of Street Fighter 2 fame?

[Dragonsbane]

and Ninja Gaiden is always right, hmmmmm? Video games aren't always that accurate, but it wouldn't matter...........there aren't enough real ninjas around anymore for me to find out.

Ninja were frequently hired to assassinate Samurai, and rarely failed to, so I think it should be an easy win for them.

[IHateMakingNames]

Video game ninjas>all (Mostly).

I don't know enough about real ninjas and samurai to give a comment on real vs real.

Ryu beats Ken. Ryu beats anyone in Street Fighter, he is the strongest Street Fighter.

[Otaku Son]

I'm not typing Ninja Gaiden is right about ninja; it's right about Ryu. It's a given fact that Ninja Gaiden takes place in the now, and Ryu uses a katana. As for all the other ninja of old, they did use ninja-to(yes, I'm quite up-to-date with my Japanese history).

And, I'll argue the Ninja vs Samurai. Ninja, being the stealthy bastards they were, would attack the samurai when the samurai unexpected it. However, in this battle, the samurai is fully aware of the ninja's presence, giving the samurai one advantage. Secondly, the time the samurai least expected ninja were whn they were in their casual gear. The samurai is in a battle now, full in his armor and such. Advantage two.

And yes, ninja are considered the "bad guys" in Japan because of their dishonorable attack-when-un-expected techniques. That's the biggest reason TMNT is not on Japanese airwaves, and why it's called Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles on European airwaves.

Typing of which, four-way free-for-all between all the TMNT.

[Edit]And, if Ryu's supposedly the greatest Street Fighter, then how about Ryu vs Dark Ryu(not Akuma, though...just for kicks...) and Ryu vs Akuma.[/Edit]

[IHateMakingNames]

Leonardo would win. Raphael acts to rashly to win in a fight, Michelangelo is to much of a slacker/goof, and Donitello is the inventor guy, while Leonardo is the leader, and the leaders are always the strongest in the shows (Whenever the leader turns evil in that one two part episode, he always kicks the other's asses easily).

Edi - Evil Ryu would beat Normal Ryu, but if this is after the Street Fighter Alpha movie, Normal Ryu wins.

Ryu>Akuma.

[Otaku Son]

But if Don's the inventor, then wouldn't he invent some kind of device to take on Leo?
(Also posted two more match-ups up above)

[Edit]And as for the leader always being strongest, in Sailor Moon: Live Action, it's actually one of the lesser Sailor Senshi that turns evil and beats the crap out of Usagi. Which leads to another match-up...nah, I'll wait.[/Edit]

[Fifthfiend]

In the original cartoon, they had that episode where Leonardo went nuts and decided he was D'artagnan from The Three Musketeers, he definitely kicked the other turtles' asses that time.

But if Don's the inventor, then wouldn't he invent some kind of device to take on Leo?

No, Leonardo would just find some clever way of disabling the machine or causing Donatello to turn the mechanical power against himself, teaching all concerned that mechanical might is powerless against the unbounded strength of the human (amphibian?) spirit.

Or as I put it in an earlier vs. response, ancient mystic whammajamma always beats highfalutin' techno-hoohah.

[Otaku Son]

Then if Leonardo is so great, who would win between Leo and Splinter? Leo and Shredder? Splinter and Shredder? In a real fight with no marketing strings attached.

[IHateMakingNames]

Leo vs. Splinter, Splinter wins. He is the old man who kicks ass when needed, and he is the one who taught Leo how to fight.

Leo vs. Shredder, Shredder wins. It takes the entire team to barely beat Shredder (Some times even Splinter has to help), so Shredder vs. One turtle Shredder wins easy.

Shredder vs. Splinter, this fight has happened, and Shredder wins.