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[Wolf99x]

This goes beyond that. He had no right to change our locations, negate skills, be an ass, etc. I'm beginning to think if we had all fired point blank at Brigg's head, he would've dodged it and blown us all up anyway. You can't refute facts that are written down just because things aren't going your way. Drake is no better than Skynet or Miang. Both tried to wipe out humanity in an effort to achieve a more favorable result to them, and that's just what Drake did here today. Some of you may like being led around like obiedient lapdogs, but some of us prefer to be a little more open-minded. Whatever your case, I don't care; but that still doesn't change that what transpired was absoultely immature and wrong.

[Dante]

In any case, just PM me when Buccha needs to makle an entrance.

[Drake the Dark]

Originally Posted by Wolf99x

This goes beyond that. He had no right to change our locations, negate skills, be an ass, etc. I'm beginning to think if we had all fired point blank at Brigg's head, he would've dodged it and blown us all up anyway. You can't refute facts that are written down just because things aren't going your way. Drake is no better than Skynet or Miang. Both tried to wipe out humanity in an effort to achieve a more favorable result to them, and that's just what Drake did here today. Some of you may like being led around like obiedient lapdogs, but some of us prefer to be a little more open-minded. Whatever your case, I don't care; but that still doesn't change that what transpired was absoultely immature and wrong.

So to prove your point, you're comparing me to ficticious sci-fi entities? Oookay, sure, why not. Who's next, Hitler? "He's a Nazi Bastard because he tried to kill us all!" But I didn't try to kill you all. IHMN is still alive, after all. If I were going out of my way to kill you all, I'd have made his train and your train be on the same tracks, so that your explosion wiped him out too. Even if you weren't caught in the initial blast, a force of that magnitude would have ripped the rear cars right up off the tracks and flung them at least 100 feet away, probably farther. Meanwhile, you and MC are being thrown around like ragdolls with all this kinetic energy being hurled around you. The odds of you surviving are slim to nil. In fact, I'm going to make a DM decision and say that you didn't survive, simply because I know of no human being who could survive such an ordeal. Look on the bright side: there were 30 gallons of Chem A on that train, so your deaths are worth trillians of dollars.

If you're so pissed off about it, just leave. You had plenty of ways to deal with the situation, and you chose the stupidest option given: shoot him in the ARM and threaten him. Shooting someone in the arm doesn't render it useless, nor does it force him to drop the detonator he was holding. You fucked up, you got stupid, and you got dead. Learn from your mistakes and move on, or go away. I vote for the latter.

[batgirl]

Wow, Hitler's a ficticious sci-fi character? Damn Holocaust classes told me he was real...I'm not gonna rip on you with "you're so stupid" or "you're an ass" Drake, but I am going to point out a couple of things.
1- Although he was shot in the arm by Wolf, if you would have read his post he stated that by being shot in the arm Briggs was unable to press the detonator.
Now, while this could be considered character control, we're on a train. Trains aren't very large across, especially since this one is full of Chem A, people, carcasses of dead guards, and apparently boxes and stuff. It would be kinda hard to dodge bullets from that close range. Also, yuor posts are almost a day apart, so people weren't going to wait for you to post. If in fact you didn't like wat happened, you could have told us to edit our posts instead of blowing us up.
2- You ignored two important things. The first was that SS had fired a stream of bullets at Brigg's back (post #23). Instead of telling him to edit his post, you chose to ignore it and act like it never happened. The second is that I did in fact have my gun leveled at Brigg's head point-blank. My character bio clearly stated that Raina was probably the best shot out of all of the players, so I definitely wouldn't have missed had he reached for the detonator. But, you chose to ingore that as well.

I'm a GM myself, and I don't like it when my NPC's are controlled either, but ignoring posts like that isn't right. You should have at least pmed people explaining the situation if it was that big a deal. But you didn't, you blew us all up thus ending your rp, and rp which I thought would have turned out well. If you feel that you feel that you needed to end the rp just for some small problems, that's up to you, but forgive me if I don't stick around if you decide to ressurect this.

[Wolf99x]

whew...i can finally stop typing because the support arrived. And I'm pretty sure Hitler was real...unless the Second World War (and for that matter, everything else up to today) didn't happen...ow...headache.

Anyways. Time for my resonable bit. What if I had tried to take the detonator away from him? Well...you'd probably get mad at me because I was controlling the NPC again...see how limited you made the interaction? If you want to somehow keep this thing alive, go ahead...but don't expect me to be hanging around...denier of history.

[IHateMakingNames]

Originally Posted by batgirl

1- Although he was shot in the arm by Wolf, if you would have read his post he stated that by being shot in the arm Briggs was unable to press the detonator.

People have two arms...

2- You ignored two important things. The first was that SS had fired a stream of bullets at Brigg's back (post #23). Instead of telling him to edit his post, you chose to ignore it and act like it never happened. The second is that I did in fact have my gun leveled at Brigg's head point-blank. My character bio clearly stated that Raina was probably the best shot out of all of the players, so I definitely wouldn't have missed had he reached for the detonator. But, you chose to ingore that as well.

Originally Posted by Drake the Dark, Post #29

Briggs lay still...until jumping to his feet and firing on Raina. His tattered long coat fell away, revealing heavily scarred body armor and a bandolier full of wired explosives.

He didn't ignore SS. Biggs had body armor (Probably a supped up form of Kevlar). And you all yelled at him for not reading the post.

Also, while batgirl's character had a gun pointed to his head, SS's character was pointing his gaint full auto gun at him as well. So Biggs move, they both shoot. The chances of SS's guy hitting one of the explosvives on Biggs would be very high.

[Wolf99x]

Ah...but Kevlar in any form is not invincible. It's just a deterrent. However many bullets SS fired at Briggs, he definetly would have managed to break through that armor with a couple. Remember, DD himself said no armor more powerful than light titainium or Kevlar. Somehow, he godmodded his own NPC.

I'm not even going to question how many pounds of C4 or whatever Brigg's was carrying that would have allowed him to take out 8 train cars in a hellish blast, perfectly leaving the other 8. (What was it, a warp bomb? Antimatter mine?)

[IHateMakingNames]

Kevlar covered with light titainuim. Or, just a couple bullets to the back wouldn't kill some one. People survive bullet shots in the head.

Since when where the other 8 unaffected? All he said where 8 cars were blown up, meaning they were in the explosion.

---------------------- (Bomb here) ----------------------------------- (Explosion ends here)
blown up -- blown --- blown -- blown ---- blown --- blown --- blown -- blown
|||||||| -- ||||||| -- ||||||| -- |||||||| -- |||||||| -- ||||||| -- |||||| -- ||||||

the next 8 are thrown off the track.

[Wolf99x]

You know, I'd have given up on this a lot earlier if it wasn't for the fact I was matching wits with a guy who believed the Holocaust didn't happen, and his trouble seeking lapdog. DD never said the last 8 got thrown off the track. But since IHMN has obviously studied the Spain incident way too much for any normal person (i.e. not a terrorist or CSI), I guess that the cars were arbitraily thrown. And even so, <sarcasm>I'm sure that would kill everybody. Maybe the compression wave of the insane amount of bombs, getting thrown off the train</sarcasm>...or the fact that Briggs would have been shot in the head before he pushed the button making this a moot point.

And also, SS ripped into Briggs at full-auto. That makes 30 bullets into his back. I think that's grounds for death, wouldn't you say? Looks like you don't read posts either, IHMN.

[IHateMakingNames]

30 bullets were shot, how many got through the body armor? For one, he said nothing beyond kevlar or light titanium for the PCs. The NPC bad guys often have more then the PCs do, so he could have had kevlar wrapped in titanium with another layer of kevlar over that. I read the post, then I read the next couple of post and put it together.

Oh, and being in a thrown thrown off the tracks with 8 destroyed cars infront of it, you are as good as dead.