Cold Desert Wind RP--Info and Sign-Up Post

[Wolf99x]

So then...you are now trying to cover your new friend's incompetence. And also, being thrown sideways off that train wouldn't kill me. BECAUSE TRAINS DON'T FLY! Honestly...did you try to mathematically figure out how high those trains would go in a blast? Obviously not. No, instead you probably watched "10.5" (crap ass miniseries) and drew conclusions from that. Now...you can either admit the two of you are wrong, or I can keep this up until hell freezes over or the sun becomes a tiny speck the size of your brain...never mind the fact that Earth would have been destroyed first...or the mods mercy kill this thread. Oh...and why would the NPC's have more armor? And don't say it's because you say so, beacuse we all know that is not the answer.

[IHateMakingNames]

I'm not trying to cover anyones incompetence, I'm just arguing because I have nothing else to do.

1) The first several trains are blown up. (Everything after this is talking about the second eight trains) The first three trains would run into the destroyed trains, which would cause the first of them to stop and possibly have the tip bend down. The second train would lift into the air, and the third would have it's nose lifted into the air. This would cause the third train to fall to the side, causing the back five to fall to their sides. Now, I don't know how fast trains go, but I can assume it's over 1000 MPH, and the trains just came to a sudden slow down and soon stop. However, everything inside of the train that is not attached to the train (People, boxes, other non bolted down things) would be thrown to the front of the car they are in at 100 MPH, then smash into each other. It's survivable, but not likely.

Damn, after writing that I forgot to take into account of the back couple trains of the first 8 being thrown back due to the blast... That would just make things worse.


2) Well, Biggs was probably the leader of these bandits (He acted like it), and they went to attack a large car of Chemical A (The most valueable thing in this world), so it is most likely heavily guarded. So, Biggs makes sure he has lots of armor for when people start shooting at him.

[Wolf99x]

HA! You're theory falls flat because like all pointless arguementers, you made a fatal mistake! Wolf had stopped the train, rendering your Newtonian-inspired chaotic train-wreck theory pointless. A train at a dead stop would not cause such a massive debacle that you theorized. Also, post-apocalyptic bullet train?...no. With this universe, I bet we could only get about 100 Mph, but that doesn't matter since the train was at a dead-stop.

Also, Briggs is not Iron Man. In fact, I'm wondering if he could actually move, if you factor in all the armor you claim he has, followed by the pounds upon pounds of explosives he was theoretically carrying.

[IHateMakingNames]

When did he stop the train? If it was his first post, then I blame everyone else for saying "No, that means he was stopping his car, not the train". If not, then I missed that post since I haven't been reading the RP since I wasn't in it yet. If it was after I pointed out your first post, then you responded saying it was the train, then meh, I forgot.

Also, there are hover bikes, why is a bullet train so hard to imagine?

Biggs didn't move very much actually. He came out, shot a guy, then blew up stuff. And I'm not sure about the weight of kevlar, but I think it's about 30-50ish, then wrapped in titanium would add 20-30ish pounds, which is heavy, but movable (Second layer of kevlar was a joke)..

[Darth SS]

I'm going to avoid this entirely by saying,

GM's choice. He controls the game. He has the authority to end it if he wishes. Granted he ignored some stuff, but that's okay.

Now, to counter points IHMN has made...

1) Axis was trained to not waste more bullets than neccesary. Translation? He shoots for the head if he has a moment to aim. Translation number 2? Standoff. Definetly aimed.

and

2) He let rip on full auto, on a gun he customized to be able to kill anything. Also, remember, he didn't aim. My intent in the post was to say that he sprayed bullets all over the back of Briggs, hitting him in the head, legs, back, arms, etc. That wasn't counted, so I assumed, "Okay, new player. Little post mistake, that's mostly on my part. I can hang with that."

3) Given who Wolf made his character out to be, I doubt he used common bullets. Probably shrapnel or death talons, both of which are illegal to be owned by a private citizen. While we should've specified, that would just overcomplicate things. Wolf shoots to kill. Both of those bullets are made to either seriously hamper, or kill. It would go without saying.

Shrapnel are like miny shotguns. Upon contact with anything solid, they rip apart into dozens of razor fragments. These would've ripped apart muscles and tendons.

Death Talons, are hooked at the front, so they spin. When they contact, they basically spin and cut apart anything in their way before momentum dies.

And given what Axis unloaded into his back, those were meant to be .7's. Those are ILLEGAL even to the military. The caliber is so large it tends to blow big holes. And this was described as inhumane. So, about thirty of those all over his back...I'd say that the majority of us would be dead. There's very little body armour that can stop that. And I think I mentioned in my sign-up that Axis uses primarily armor piercing rounds, so....



I think that's about it. More or less....yah.

[Wolf99x]

On page two (post #16), Wolf pulled the train's emergency brake...STOPPING THE TRAIN! Like I said...you really might want to read posts before spouting off stuff. Also, like Batgirl said earlier, trains are narrow, so Briggs would have the worst possible time trying to move about with all that armor and bombs. He probably would have tripped, fallen, and set them off by contact pressure.

And i'll admit, hover bikes may have been a little apocraphyl, but the train wasn't a bullet. Otherwise the Trans-Am couldn't have kept up with it.

EDIT: SS, You're right on all points (more or less). I understand that the GM does have choice, I'm saying he made the wrong one.

[IHateMakingNames]

Ah, the problems with guns in RPs...

[Wolf99x]

Says the guy who made a big stink over the Katana. Now...like I said...the train was stopped. Explain things now.

[Darth SS]

Just looking back, I got to say...

EIGHTY POUNDS? And still MOVABLE!? (Ooh, I think you meant flak au lieu of kevlar. Kevlar is just the material, and it tends to be easy to break through at a high enough caliber.)

That's half or more of a normal person's body weight. With that weighing down and everything, it would be damn near impossible to move at all! Factor in the bombs, that's like another 100 pounds on you!

[IHateMakingNames]

I said the katana would be worthless, you're the one who made a big deal out of it.

And the explosion could have sent some of the cars back in a wave-like motion, causing them to derail and fall to the side. Then something lands on you and you die, or the sudden bump and fall causes you to accidently shot off a gun of yours into yourself.

Oh, as for SS's things.

1) A full auto gun that apparently is extremely powerful, it's hard to be accurate with those.

2) You said back, so everyone assumed back. If you had said back side, then it would be different.

3) Two arms. Humans have two arms.


Edit - Well, this is the year 5000ish, there could be a better form of body arm, light weight yet durable. Of course, you will say "No there isn't" for whatever reason, then Drake might come back and say "Yes there was". I'm saying it's a possiblity, and since it is Drake's call... Or Kevlar could be lighter, I'm not sure. I guessed.